Farmscript ?

DeletedUser

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Well i am Not shure about it thats why i ask it here,

Are Farmscript illigal here i ask it now before i use them tommorow en then i will get banned and that we be a shame :(
Sow maybe someone knows if you may use them here.



Blaziken.
 

DeletedUser

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Yeah, I would like to know about all scripts in general... Do the farm/resource balance/minting/mass recruit/etc. all need to be re-approved for this server? Or is it automatically approved if it has been cleared for the .net server?
 

DeletedUser

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Yeah, I would like to know about all scripts in general... Do the farm/resource balance/minting/mass recruit/etc. all need to be re-approved for this server? Or is it automatically approved if it has been cleared for the .net server?

Well all my scripts from .nl work on all server also here so dont think you have to improve them ;)
 

DeletedUser

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It's not a matter of whether or not they WORK, its more like... are they allowed? I've been told that many of the .net server scripts are not allowed in some of the others (UK server for example).

I was asking if they need approved, not improved ;)
 

DeletedUser

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It's not a matter of whether or not they WORK, its more like... are they allowed? I've been told that many of the .net server scripts are not allowed in some of the others (UK server for example).

I was asking if they need approved, not improved ;)

Ah k Yeah still waiting On mod when he says that legal or illigal, :)
 

DeletedUser

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Farming scripts are illegal as for now.

Maybe in the future when we get our own script list they will become legal.
 

DeletedUser

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those doesn't include real farm scripts like the .net also the fake scripts aren't allowed
 

DeletedUser

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Well if we want the illegal farming/fake scripts we will just have to re-apply them for approval and see what happens. I will definitely not be a happy farmer without my scripts but at least everyone will be at the same disadvantage.
 

DeletedUser

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I have never used a "real" farm script in my tw life..infact I rarely ever use premium and I get by just find (just ask the .net players).

So either way, not a big deal for me, although I do not see why they should be made illegal. Also, as was previously stated we are currently using .UK for script rules.
 

DeletedUser

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When people are referring to a script, are they referring to javascript? To my knowledge there are 2 effective ways of doing what is being requested here. For starters, I have seen spreadsheets used to do exactly this, they are hard work to set up, but once setup, are very fast indeed. A few years back I wrote one in ods format for openoffice. But, there is one better method which I know of, it's extreme, and it's very iffy if this is okay, but I know someone that designed c++ code from the ground up, to have an embedded webbrowser with a farm database running in the background. The reason this was effective, was because they were able to parse the html code passing through it, to update the database automatically. To attack the next farm in the database, they would simply throw in a command, and it would bring up the next attack window and even tell them visually how many LC to attack with. It could predict exact resource levels based on a village scout. Reading the scout reports would update the farms details.

Now, I used this on the german server where I invented the tactic of destroying all production in your own villages, to make them pointless for long range nobling. I proved that you could succeed at this game without ever raising the levels of your production above 1. By doing this, you can go from 3 villages to 15+ in no time. I won't be using this tactic on this world however, I don't have anywhere near the amount of time required for this. Farming is something that can keep you up all damn night, and then those odd pricks that accidently leave a bunch of spears in a barb by accident. Annoying.
 

Nauzhror

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When people are referring to a script, are they referring to javascript?

Yes.

darktrinity said:
To my knowledge there are 2 effective ways of doing what is being requested here.

There's more than two methods, 'most' are not legal though.

darktrinity said:
For starters, I have seen spreadsheets used to do exactly this, they are hard work to set up, but once setup, are very fast indeed. A few years back I wrote one in ods format for openoffice.

This is very much allowed and legal.


darktrinity said:
But, there is one better method which I know of, it's extreme, and it's very iffy if this is okay, but I know someone that designed c++ code from the ground up, to have an embedded webbrowser with a farm database running in the background. The reason this was effective, was because they were able to parse the html code passing through it, to update the database automatically. To attack the next farm in the database, they would simply throw in a command, and it would bring up the next attack window and even tell them visually how many LC to attack with. It could predict exact resource levels based on a village scout. Reading the scout reports would update the farms details.

Definitely not legal on .net due to the following portion of their rules.

.net Rules said:
Tribal Wars should be played with a normal browser only. Bots, browser add-ons and other applications that automate game activities are forbidden. All Greasemonkey scripts are forbidden.

.uk and .us aren't quite as clearly worded, but after having specifically just asked hoodoo I can say that it would not be allowed here either. (She also said she'll make that be explicitly mentioned in the rules like it is on .net, and I'll ask .uk's CM to do so as well.)

darktrinity said:
Now, I used this on the german server where I invented the tactic of destroying all production in your own villages, to make them pointless for long range nobling. I proved that you could succeed at this game without ever raising the levels of your production above 1. By doing this, you can go from 3 villages to 15+ in no time. I won't be using this tactic on this world however, I don't have anywhere near the amount of time required for this. Farming is something that can keep you up all damn night, and then those odd pricks that accidently leave a bunch of spears in a barb by accident. Annoying.

Don't know if you were potentially actually the first person to do this on any TW server, but you're definitely not the only one. I've known lots of players to noble with level 1 mines. Did it myself once as well when experimenting on a world.
 

DeletedUser

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The issue is automation, the idea of automation is you can leave your computer and it will do it all for you. This isn't even close to what I am talking about. What I am talking about, is simply a database which stores your farms information, and predicts the level of resources in it. This is done by keeping a record of the last scout or farm attempt. The player could just as easily do all of the above with a spreadsheet, however, the integration becomes much more nessesary further down the track with larger numbers of villages.

At no point does the program in anyway attempt to do multiple actions per click. Isn't that by definition a legal script?
 

Nauzhror

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The issue is automation, the idea of automation is you can leave your computer and it will do it all for you. This isn't even close to what I am talking about. What I am talking about, is simply a database which stores your farms information, and predicts the level of resources in it. This is done by keeping a record of the last scout or farm attempt. The player could just as easily do all of the above with a spreadsheet, however, the integration becomes much more nessesary further down the track with larger numbers of villages.

At no point does the program in anyway attempt to do multiple actions per click. Isn't that by definition a legal script?

Nope, first sentence quoted would still apply:

Tribal Wars should be played with a normal browser only.

That and the definition of a legal script here is currently anything in this thread. There's guidelines for the types of scripts that are likely to be approved, but each and every script must specifically be approved on a case-by-case basis.
 

DeletedUser

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So, if I had a mysql database which contained a list of farms, and I built a javascript script to access this database and load the next farm for attack, would that be out of the question? If the answer is yes, then technically it would provide the same functionality as the program I described. Correct?
 
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