Harvester of Sorrow --> Hardstabber of Sorrow?

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Did not want to make this thread, but since Kawoni doesnt allow things to go off-topic and more importantly since Sorrow and friends are replying like its a joke and come up with excuses about other worlds, this needs to be done...

It all started yesterday, right after I told some people on skype that I was in love with W37 because it was so competitive. Then I heared that sorrow left TBD to join the enemy. Tribe changes can happen and are happening more often, but I instantly felt sad about this one because this seemed to be a game-changer where this world switchted from mega-exciting to nearly-determined.

I reached out to wicked and rattle about the swap, because its my ex-tribe first of all, and secondly because especially rattlesnake is someone that I really respect, maybe (for me) one of the most respected players on this server. So I chatted with them, and then the taste of the tribe swap got even nastier!

So not only did sorrow change sides at a really critical moment in the world, he first took 20+ internals before he left. Looking further, he also had the sit of the incredible Hulk when he got f*cked. Although I am definitely not going to accuse him of anything around this sit (since I have 0 proof), this does also leave a bad taste in combination with the rest of the actions that happened.

In my opinion, this is a straight up stab towards TBD and can not be tolerated. I dont know Sorrow personally, but from what ive heared in the past it was a nice guy. However, after this I can not take this guy seriously anymore and neither should you...

Playing together with him is everyone's personal choice, but defending him means that you are OK with stabbing.

I do have a few questions to you @Harvester Of Sorrow :

- Why do you switch sides?
- Why take 20+ internals before switching?
- Why are you, instead of admitting that its dirty, nearly laughing about it and come back to actions on previous worlds of other people?

To all other people, I want to say that this can be a really interesting topic as long as you respond properly and behave.

To @kawoni , please tolerate this topic, but remove all inappropriate messages and personal attacks.
 

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I switched sides because I was tired of bad decisions and terrible teamwork. Wick3d and whoever else has thier hands on the wheel of TBD have made countless terrible decisions that resulted in things such as NL Kings villages being lost, hulks villages being lost, and blowgunners villages being lost. Each instant we had the sit and many opportunities to internal but leadership decided to wait and each time the enemy beat us to it. That's on the leaders not me.

Same with the blowgunner villages. We had the sit. They waited we lost the sit. I had been ready for over a week and a half to do the internal so when we lost the sit and SW started taking villages I did the same and I did it very efficiently. Idc how it looks it's not my fault they didnt internal him the proper way when they had the chance.

I've already admitted it was dirty. There are people in TBD that dont deserve it and to them I'm sorry. But I dont play this game to please everyone else. So when I'm tired of following a shitty leader I dont just suck it up for people I hardly know. I laugh and joke because people like Wicked and Karmil are so butthurt they revert to insulting people and thier personal lives which i always find funny. They are salty people and anytime they get upset they attack people like children throwing a tantrum. So I laugh at them as I would at any child that throws a fit.

I've talked with some people in TBD and a couple even agree with the fact leadership has been terrible. They cant even organize an OP on 80k players. Sigi and chill are both very cool guys and everyone in SW is very upbeat and I'm sure they were before I joined. They are having fun. Which is why I play this game, to have fun. In TBD I didnt have any. Instead it was just constant frustration. Who wants to play a game where everytime they get on it sucks? Not me. Think what you want about me, it's a game. And a war game at that. Sides change and so do people. Some people will never accept this and that's on them.

-Sorrow
 

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Thanks, really nice answer and good explanation :)

Having fun is ofcourse the most important thing on this game, so I understand what you mean. Still not agreeing with what you did, but that is something that will not change which is not necessarily a problem ofcourse.

Tbh your tribe change is not the only thing that frustrates me, what bothers me as well is that the rank2 leaders dont want to fight because they know they can still join SW later... world can still be interesting if some people attach their balls back on their body and fight ^^
 

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I switched sides because I was tired of bad decisions and terrible teamwork. Wick3d and whoever else has thier hands on the wheel of TBD have made countless terrible decisions that resulted in things such as NL Kings villages being lost, hulks villages being lost, and blowgunners villages being lost. Each instant we had the sit and many opportunities to internal but leadership decided to wait and each time the enemy beat us to it. That's on the leaders not me.

Same with the blowgunner villages. We had the sit. They waited we lost the sit. I had been ready for over a week and a half to do the internal so when we lost the sit and SW started taking villages I did the same and I did it very efficiently. Idc how it looks it's not my fault they didnt internal him the proper way when they had the chance.

I've already admitted it was dirty. There are people in TBD that dont deserve it and to them I'm sorry. But I dont play this game to please everyone else. So when I'm tired of following a shitty leader I dont just suck it up for people I hardly know. I laugh and joke because people like Wicked and Karmil are so butthurt they revert to insulting people and thier personal lives which i always find funny. They are salty people and anytime they get upset they attack people like children throwing a tantrum. So I laugh at them as I would at any child that throws a fit.

I've talked with some people in TBD and a couple even agree with the fact leadership has been terrible. They cant even organize an OP on 80k players. Sigi and chill are both very cool guys and everyone in SW is very upbeat and I'm sure they were before I joined. They are having fun. Which is why I play this game, to have fun. In TBD I didnt have any. Instead it was just constant frustration. Who wants to play a game where everytime they get on it sucks? Not me. Think what you want about me, it's a game. And a war game at that. Sides change and so do people. Some people will never accept this and that's on them.

-Sorrow


Are you for real? Do you even know what your saying Frank? You cry about Hulk villas being lost? Dude YOU had Hulk's sit for over 2 weeks. You gave them Hulk's villas and that's really low in TW standards.

You were spying for SW , I mean you admitted on screwing blowguners account. I know your girls are doing damage control but what you did was dirty as . Listen, even when Hulk still played , we had a mole that was telling SW everything and that mole was Harvester. Looking at our convos on LINE, Frank was always asking me about plans , next steps , etc.

Last thing about blowgunners villas. After Bart quit he gave my account his sit and we made every villa a D. Frank insisted on eating him ASAP because he knew the longer he waits the harder it will be to take them later from us. To us, it made no sense to eat an account when the enemy is at full strength from that side. You wait until they waste their nukes THEN you eat an account to prevent easy recaps. This was the plan that was what was the best for the tribe not Harvester. We all agreed and I would say anyone who played before would have done almost the same. It would have worked but We all know the drama surrounding Bart coming back on w36 and w37. My mistake was telling Frank a lot because I trusted him. Within 12 hours or less of me telling him , blowguners started to lose villas since Frank told SW that we lost control of that account. Harveter did a fantastic job telling me that he wants to fight sigi , he wants to fight SW, he wants to have a frontline and after playing with him few worlds and consider him a friend , you believe him.


The one OP that worked was when we only told people that had short trains of landing times while everyone else was assign random nuking in by our claims. Harvester wasn't able to tell them real targets or times just what he saw trough command sharing.

He feels bad about some in TBD getting screwed by him lol That's the biggest pile of shit that I heard from a liar. Friends don't do this shit to friends and many played with Frank in the past so all he cares is about easy win.

It's hard to play and have a success when a spy that you least expect is over his friends , his tribe. Nothing will go he way you want since He was working all of this time against us.
 
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It's pathetic how everyone hugs but considers themselves good at the game.SW is shit, except for maybe 3-4 players, the others are absolute trash, capable of surviving only by changing sides and playing dirty.

RatedE is stupid if they keep the alliance with SW, they cannot win the world and if they believe that all of them will fit into SW they are wrong, but you can't explain idiots that 1+1=2.

I don't know who put this in motion, but getting everyone against TBD, recruiting from TBD..I am not picking a side here, but SW has been playing it dirty and they continue to do so.Luckily, the world has plenty of idiots falling for it.


And harvester, say whatever you want about leadership.You don't take 20 internals and leave.If you had just left, it would've still been a nasty move, but this is over the line.I had an argument with you and I already realized that you are an idiot, but you are more than that.You are a traitor with an ego .only way you can win a world is by stabbing and playing dirty.


And I had no idea you had the sit of Hulk when he was opped.Perhaps you allowed his villages to slip intentionally.Which makes you more of a scum.and if that isn't the case, then you are a shit player with a big mouth if you took the responsability to defend someone's account and failed like that.It's not like anyone forced you to sit him, right?You took that upon yourself and either failed, or you have planned this a long time ago.Either way, bad rep for you in the future.To some people, that matters.It might not matter to you, but it will.You hear a lot of people talking about wicked and he has a pretty hard time due to his reputation(that he 100% earned).You might feel differently about hurting your reputation when people start refusing to work with you because of it.

I wouldn't normally want SW to win because of how they played, but I would like to see you in the winning tribe.It's clear that it means a lot to you.
 

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Glad you can be honest and say you know its dirty, and still do it.

Your move to jump ship, i am sure it was planned along time ago when looking at the big picture now. You can excuse it as much you like, but it doesnt justify your backstab.

Good thing is, now we all know.

I have a good friend who started w37 just beacuse of you talking him into it. And now you stab him in the back. Good game dude...

Id rather keep my reputation than having fun..
 

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First thing I'm not gonna reply to anything dase said because I dont like him and hes not even on w37 so his opinion is irrelevant to me. Hes just another butt that is hurting....

As for wicked, you can blame anything you want on me. I'm not the one who waited to internal hulk or blowguner... you did. And it backfired on you and you're mad at me from it? Not my fault. I told you to internal both asap. You didnt listen to my advice and that's my fault? Lol no that's on you bud.

Last thing about blowgunners villas. After Bart quit he gave my account his sit and we made every villa a D. Frank insisted on eating him ASAP because he knew the longer he waits the harder it will be to take them later from us. To us, it made no sense to eat an account when the enemy is at full strength from that side. You wait until they waste their nukes THEN you eat an account to prevent easy recaps.

You say this but it turned out to be a really shitty decision on your part be cause blowguner came back, seen that you and your buddies were screwing with his account so he didnt set you back as the sitter. That's 150% all on you.

I only ever asked you for details on ops because in your tribe those who dont ask wont know lol. You never tell people anything and then get mad when only 2 people sent fakes for an OP that only 1 person knew about. Again not my fault. You think you have a mole? Then you probably still do because I wasnt him Haha. I made a deal with sigi that if he didnt stack a village I was going for I'd tell him a village to stack instead that blowguner was attacking. Yea I did this... it was a fair trade imo. I didnt like blowguner and that's no surprise to most. He had me blocked most of the world lol. That's was probably a shitty thing but I dont care what you think just like I care less about dases opinion. You both can be butthurt together for all I care.
 

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You say this but it turned out to be a really shitty decision on your part be cause blowguner came back, seen that you and your buddies were screwing with his account so he didnt set you back as the sitter. That's 150% all on you.

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You're not gonna reply to me cuz you don't like me.Uhh, my feelings are hurt.

It's not 150% on him though.Bart us up in w36. you up in w37.It's on bart tbh.Who just like you hurt his own rep for nothing, when he could've just quit if he wanted to quit instead of playing silly games.Kinda like you, instead of taking the hard way and have fun, you took the easy way to press send attack and instantly noble villages.And then you talk about others playing with strong teams like it's a bad thing.


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Ahhh so it turns out dase is here because hes not just butthurt about what I did that didnt effect him at all. Hes also STILL super butthurt about blowgunner leaving the top tribe on w36. I dont see why you are here Haha
 

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It's pathetic how everyone hugs but considers themselves good at the game.SW is shit, except for maybe 3-4 players, the others are absolute trash, capable of surviving only by changing sides and playing dirty.

RatedE is stupid if they keep the alliance with SW, they cannot win the world and if they believe that all of them will fit into SW they are wrong, but you can't explain idiots that 1+1=2.

I agree with the first part, SW is mostly overrated aside from a few good players.

The members of RatedE are in a tough spot since their leader is friends with SW, he will switch sides as well I am 110% sure about that. Thats why ratedE isnt doing anything atm. The leader(s) forbid it. Kingblend will join SW before world ends I am sure :)
 

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Just to make things clear.

Your backstab will be remembered, and hopefully people who dont know you will avoid you, so they dont get treated as your "friends" in TBD.

Only future you have in this server under your Account name is with your backstab encouraging friends you joined . I hope you all are proud, by not being able to take upon a world and play clean. Pretty sad in my opinion.

And all your jokes and excuses doesnt justify your actions , but am sure you are aware of this
 

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Frank, you wanted to do what was best for you and SW for long time not what was best for us. You had a deal with them way before Bart quit, way before NL account quit so for over 2 months you were us over and doing everything in your power to help them while pretending your friends with sugar for example.
 
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You say my excuses dont justify my actions but you aren't even on w37 and know next to nothing about the situation. So again your opinion mean nothing to me. You are just another guy that is mad.

And wick3d like usual is now fabricating things that he assumed and trying to make them fact.

NL king quit and left YOU with the sit. YOU let sw and RatedE take most of the villages. Does that mean that you were the spy?... probably not lol but it's very easy to lie and say tbat just like you lie and say what you say.

Again stop blaming every terrible decision you've made on me just because I left.
 

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Ahhh so it turns out dase is here because hes not just butthurt about what I did that didnt effect him at all. Hes also STILL super butthurt about blowgunner leaving the top tribe on w36. I dont see why you are here Haha

Bring arguments dude.I'm not super butthurt about blowguner leaving the top tribe.Blowguner switched sides just like you.I am not butt hurt about it.I have lost all my respect for bart, but I am not butt hurt.

I am not butt hurt about what you did at all.I just called out some facts and you're incapable of understanding that.It doesn't have to affect me, .It's a forum, I can comment even though I am not directly involved.You're a Act like a strong player, join the stronger team as soon as it's possible.Funny thing is, the fact that you left TBD and joined SW might actually cost SW the world if people are not stupid and they decide to act against this type of in game behavior.
 
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Still didnt read what you are saying bro, I see your name and ignore it because you..

1. Are An
2. Think you're opinion matters to people when they could care less
3. Are just butthurt and cant actually admit it.

Once you can maybe come forth about all that pain in your ass then maybe I'll read what you have to say. But till then all I see is "blah blah I'm dase blah blah my ass hurts so much" you're one of the people that care too much about reputation a d what people think of you. Its called being fake. You think I'm fake for switching sides and I think you are fake for caring so much about people's opinions of you.

;)
 
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You say my excuses dont justify my actions but you aren't even on w37 and know next to nothing about the situation. So again your opinion mean nothing to me. You are just another guy that is mad.


I am playing w37. Know alot of the situation, not mad at all. But that doesnt matter. All your background bullshit doesnt matter, everything that made you sad and wanted to leave, doesnt matter.

What does matter, is that you jumped ship. Thats bad. Then add you taking 20 internals before you left, things looks even worse. This is all people need to know, beacuse thats the major problem here. For whatever reasons you did all this, its still a really dirty move, its a backstab, and an huge betrayal. Can you be a man and admit that your an traitor, backstabber and play dirty based on you joining the enemy and taking 20 internals before you left? Or do you not see this situation for what it is. And leave all your reasons out of this please
 

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Can you be a man and see that I could care less about your shitty opinion of me?

"Admit you backstabbed, admit you are a traitor"

I'll admit one thing... you seem to be just as butthurt as dase and wicked... but only wick3d has a reason to be lol.

At this point it's more entertaining to see what you say then to try and give my position anymore. None of you will believe me because you're ignorant. I could sit here defending myself all day but I'm sure none of you would stop Haha. The lies made up will get worse and worse and insults will probably get more and more personal.

So since I dont care for any of your opinions now I'll just sit back and enjoy you guys getting all ass chapped :)
 

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Let's not forget stealing 2 villas from the real mccoy . Mccoy cleared then got on loyalty and Frank just moved in.
 
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Dase

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Still didnt read what you are saying bro, I see your name and ignore it because you..

1. Are An
2. Think you're opinion matters to people when they could care less
3. Are just butthurt and cant actually admit it.

Once you can maybe come forth about all that pain in your ass then maybe I'll read what you have to say. But till then all I see is "blah blah I'm dase blah blah my ass hurts so much" you're one of the people that care too much about reputation a d what people think of you. Its called being fake. You think I'm fake for switching sides and I think you are fake for caring so much about people's opinions of you.

;)

You did read my posts otherwise you wouldn't know what I said in them xD
Caring about your reputation doesn't make you fake.Especially if it's caring what friends care about you.Pretending to be someone's friend to stabb them later, that's being fake.
 
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PsychoViking

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Well. Am glad that i got to know you. Maybe in a few years you grow up a bit and will be able to handle an discussion as i do, as it should be handled. Pure, mature and honest. You got alot to learn buddy
 
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