Harvester of Sorrow --> Hardstabber of Sorrow?

[DeletedUser8123]

It wasn't wrong just because it was 4 years after pearl harbor.It was wrong because it shouldn't have gone that far.Basically shurtu leaving was Pearl Harbor, a normal thing that sometimes happens in wars.Harvester planning this for weeks, giving you info, stealing internals as he left, that was the A-Bomb.Harvester was right to leave, sure.I don't deny the fact that he had reasons to leave.But he had no reason that excuses the way he left, just like America has no excuse for killing millions of innocent civilians with the A-bomb in your example.They were right to strike back perhaps, but they did it in the wrong manner.

Actually it was about a quarter of a million civilians, but that's not important. (even though the Japanese killed a much higher number of Chinese, Korean, and others, but that's neither here nor there). And if you want to get technical, America had a very valid reason for the A-bomb. If they had been forced to invade, all reports suggest way more Japanese than the quarter of a million would have been killed in the fighting. But I'm not trying to get into the WW2 history. But cool, you acknowledge SW was just hitting TBD back.

I've responded to how i believe Shurtu was spying just as how you believe Sorrow was spying, and i've given my opinion on the "internals" Blowguner screwed TBD out of. I don't deny Sorrow told us some things, but if you try to say you've never gotten inside info from an enemy tribe, i'll just laugh. Remember earlier when you said it's fine to use a bazooka when someone tries to use a handgun against you? So even if Sorrow was a bazooka and Shurtu was a handgun, didn't you say that was okay? And Sorrow and Shurtu left in the same manner. Middle of the night, no warning. Sorrow at least had the balls to send a message about it and why he did, Shurtu didn't bother.

People sure were blaming SW, and we don't need to get into our personal history from 35 Dase. Mr selling villages for PP. You're entitled to your opinion about Sorrow being worse than Shurtu.

I'm not blaming Reign, it's not like i expect him to stand up for SW. But just because SW didn't bother to whine about Shurtu in the forum then doesn't change how any of it happened or what TBD did, and that doesn't change the backstab, and that doesn't change the fact SW had the right to hit back, even Dase just admitted that. It's not like this forum is the authority on anything. Reign and the rest of TBD obviously knew about Shurtu coming over, if not before he did but then for sure after he did. And it's safe to assume there was a conversation about it then. As of course there was in SW as well, and i'm sure in other places.

 

[DeletedUser6793]

No-one of PG openly complained about shurtru I believe, so it was hard to discuss it

Besides that, although shurtru moving might also be dirty, this move had way more impact on the world and the internals make it worse.

But I has been a few days now and I think that the points if both sides are clear...

Tbh I am glad that I made this topic, discussions like this are actually pretty fun to have. And look at the amount of posts in the last 2 days

For me this will be the last thing ive said about this topic, unless I really have to reply at someone.

I wish all players on this world a good end-fight (sadly I only have 3 villages so cant make an impact ^^) and I hope we will see some suprises

excuse me please but if you think feeding alex with few 10k villas at that stage of world did not had big impact then i really need to question your professionality

 

[Baja Blast]

Both situations were dirty. I do think the Sorrow situation was more dirty for sure and I'll just give my thoughts on it here.

Shurtu is one of the guys I trusted most as he was one of my first TW friends and helped me learn a lot on w31, he basically taught me everything I know about TW, him and surprisingly, Wick3d. So I still have a special place in my heart for those guys but I stuck my neck out for shurtu to get him a place in our tribe, saying that he wouldn't change tribes because he had told me previously that he wanted to play a world with me and I believed that he would stick to that. Then he left in the middle of the night without saying anything to me, which made me a little sad, I would have at least expected a little "heads up, I have some friends in TBD that I've been wanting to play with, I'll be heading there." I still would have been sad, but I would have respected it more.

Due to the the amount of points that Sorrow had when he came over, I think that it had a bigger impact on the world than what Shurtu did. Sorrow had told us a while ago that he was unhappy in TBD and we (Sig and myself) jokingly said that if he ever wanted to leave, we could make a spot for him in SW. I never thought he would actually leave his tribe at that point. Later on, he came to us saying that he for real wanted to come over. We said okay, let's get a couple villages stacked and then we'll invite you. Then there was the whole blowguner internal thing which I never felt good about. I already knew that what we were doing was probably too dirty as it was, but then taking all of those blowguner villages on top of that was something that I was against, but ultimately left it up to Sorrow to decide how he wanted to come over.

So for everyone that this has had a negative effect on, I'm sorry, I know that we messed this whole thing up. I don't regret Sorrow coming over, but I for sure regret the way that it happened..

Sorry for the long message and the rambling, but I wanted to put my thoughts out there on the matter as well.

 

[DeletedUser6581]

Look , this was planned from very early in this world since he even told me on LINE that he has a chat with you guys from w35. I knew he told you about when Bart blocked him in game and you made fun of that to Bart . Even Bart , told me that he was a spy but I never believed that.

Now, I just wanna add some things since that crying bitch sigi is trying to spin this to make it legit. You say we play dirty , Ask that if we did since I told almost everything since he was in part of leadership. He knew that shurtu wasn't spying for us. So what he knew, you guys knew so don't give us that bullshit.

NL king and Hulk. Like under said , NL left and told us that he will be back, never came back. We didn't wanna get banned so I asked Kat the correct, the legal way of eating somebody that mostly quit. I told everything to Frank and he told you guys that. We did the best with little troops. When he left, he barely had any troops so we kept the account going. We defended it when we knew he had attacks. So again, Frank wanted to eat him ASAP and he didn't care if others could have gotten banned since he always had a spot in SW. The same with Hulk, he had his sit and AFTER I told him when we gonna eat Hulk , the next day hulk lost almost all of them, sorry let's correct that gave them away to SW. I know you were on that morning because I was writing to you and you were green for few minutes. Frank is all about ego, playing dirty and doing anything to get easy villas and a win.

Now Blowgunner, me and under were dirty faking your ass sigi so to the last day, we were hitting you so stop that inactive bullshit. After all troops were gone, we made all villas D so when Bart came back , all of the villas were D. Frank knew that so he was panicking and insisting we eat him. That move may have been right move for Frank but it wasn't right for the tribe. You don't eat an account where the enemy is 2 to 3 fields away when they are at their full force. You eat an account after their OP on us when they are low on nukes and nobles. We didn't had at that time enough D to cover all of gunners border villas after eating him . So again, we put tribe over Franks ego.

What I find it amazing are his excuses from NL , hulk to blowgunner to age gap to chemistry to me. Instead being a man and say I wanna get an easy win and you all , he had to be a and make excuses. At least he admitted to spying . Truth is Frank, this isn't w33 and it wouldn't have been a repeat. We have better active players here , good chemistry and the only thing that was different is you since you knew you will be us. Nobody was kissing your ass man here so you needed some love and that's where cade and sigi started to blow you , made you feel like a special girl that finally found few boyfriends , finally boys that will take you out on date.

So blame me bro about this to others if you want since all that you said to your "friends" is bunch of bullshit. Blame to me look innocent , play that victim card but you can't hide the fact that you royally your friends for an easy win. I guess that's what number 1 players do.

Everyone that is still playing knows that there is no chemistry issues , well there was with you ignoring to answer mates mails or even opening them for some time before backstabbing us, communication is good and we had a good plan until you backstabbed everyone here. No need to send your sigi to defend you now, we all know your just a scumbag and I'm glad others know about you.

 

[DeletedUser6793]

you had a plans blah blah blah
you were winning blah blah blah

just check tw stats and everything will be clear , sorrow just speed up things
if you still believe what you saying you're welcome to fight , world is not over yet , runes just got spawned

 

[Dase]

To all the SW/RatedE people.Right now, you are winning.Replying to TBD members/ people not even playing this world like myself is useless.You have more important things to do.For example, how do you get 26 accounts in the same tribe on a 15 member tribe limit when you finally merge as planned?Perhaps you'll just recruit King Blend and he'll join because he doesn't give a crap about his team.This is what matters, not what others believe about you.Wars are easy.Too easy to fight them.It's finding a way to merge all those accounts that's gonna give you a hard time.Good luck.

 

[Caesar Augustus]

Hello friends and fans.

Where's old Pam?

 

[DeletedUser6793]

To all the SW/RatedE people.Right now, you are winning.Replying to TBD members/ people not even playing this world like myself is useless.You have more important things to do.For example, how do you get 26 accounts in the same tribe on a 15 member tribe limit when you finally merge as planned?Perhaps you'll just recruit King Blend and he'll join because he doesn't give a crap about his team.This is what matters, not what others believe about you.Wars are easy.Too easy to fight them.It's finding a way to merge all those accounts that's gonna give you a hard time.Good luck.

maybe back in past when you had same problem you got burned , its nice of you to pointing on that but im pretty sure we can handle it

 

[Dase]

Never got burned from that.Never played a world where my tribe planned a merge to win.w31 where I started playing in FMIAB who won the world I quit due to all the hugging that world had.It wasn't FMIAB hugging vs 1 tribe.It was like a 4v4 tribal fight.I prefer everyone for themselves or max 1 alliance.

Most hugging I've had in a long time was on .net where the tribe I was in w98 had an academy.

I quit when I see there needs to be a merge done in the future because I believe it is a lot harder to fight on the same side with people for 6+ months and then tell them they have no spot in the winning tribe.But everyone supports whatever play style they like

 

[DeletedUser8044]

It wouldn't be a regular TW world without the regulars in here complaining like always

 

[Dase]

It wouldn't be a regular TW world without the regulars in here complaining like always

Would also not be a regular tw world without the regular hugging+stabbing.

 

[DeletedUser6712]

ugh, so much fun and I missed it all...

 

[DeletedUser2884]

I would think many of you should know this by now since most of you put so much time into this game but I’ll still say it.

This is a game where the goal is to win. Trust no one in game and assume the worst. Finally if there’s an opportunity to advance yourself then take it.

In all my time playing this game the ones that have done the best didn’t wait for others. They took the initiative and got it done.

In regards to the man on topic. Sorrow is a player with ambition to win. You must read these players even if they’re your friends. Let them thrive and do their thing but keep them happy or they turn. Was it a betrayal of trust and a dick move? Sure. But I’ve seen it over and over in this game. If you can’t handle it then stop playing. It’s a part of this game.

In conclusion stop getting so butthurt. When you enter the game put all feelings aside and play it like a game not real life. Oh wow! There’s actually things outside of TW??? Yes, yes there is. Crazy right? Learn this, you’ll feel much better.

 

[DeletedUser6793]

Back in days when i started this game backstabs,betrays,manipulation,gangbangs,reverse gangbangs and all other kind of things you cant even think about was used to achieve win , and now its strange for me to see ppl get this mad about usual thing.
I've never said i agree with that but if thats gonna give you world win then sure i can understand that , i dont need to agree with that but sure i can put it behind me and move on.

 

[DeletedUser8119]

Id just like to say really quick that Wick3d you are an idiot man. i don't think I've ever seen someone put so much into making things up like you do. you fabricated a whole back story for me and didn't leave out any of the made up little details. you are a funny guy i give you that xD..

But the fact is you actually don't have any clue on what happened, and honestly no one here but me really knows exactly everything about this. chill and sigi knows some but other than that most here haven't got the slightest clue. so when i say what happened and you say i'm lying that's all on you.... but you cant act like you actually know what happened because you don't. so please stop with all the ridiculously wild accusations that conveniently place me at the center of why all your shitty decisions with internals backfired on you. even though that was specifically one of the reasons i left.

 

[DeletedUser2884]

Let’s all be honest here. Who actually wants to spend the time anymore on long strung out worlds? TW isn’t a fast enough game for some and at times some of us just want to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

On another note. You guys are all pointing fingers. However I’ve seen practically all of you, myself included, betray or try to manipulate another players trust... be it your best friend or the little noob tribe. None of us are innocent of “betrayal”. Except WallBuster perhaps lol and the noob players foolish enough to trust the word of a sly seasoned TW player.

 

[BlendR3born]

Here I’m just going to explain some stuff for all of you guys that just love to bash my tribe and myself.

When this world started pg and I didn’t get along due to bonfire. So I started to reach out to tribes. I seen a few buddies in tbd and figured maybe I can close the gate with wicked and I off by working with them. So I spoke to mason(reprisal) because that’s who Mario recommend I speak to about an alliance. They were in the north and us the south. Would of been great due to locations and when rune villages appeared. Rated e wasn’t big at the time we were rank 48 and just starting off. So I spoke to mason a few times and he sort of gave me the run around. Don’t know if it was because of his health or whatever. But he had me download line to get in a chat to talk to wicked and him about it. So nothing came about. I never got an invite to a server/chat whatever it was. So I just abandoned the idea thinking wicked just wanted to screw with me. So I moved on to badboys(daleks now). Spoke to max and we had a great thing going. Then max up and quit and left me hanging with kurn/old warrior as leaders. So we all had a nap with sw to fight tbd. Well kurn and old warrior told me 8 hours before they screwed us that if the nap is dropped they will let us know. This nap had a week without attacks attached to it from when we made our deal with sw to fight tbd when wicked recruited shurtu and started this mess. So here we are down 29 villages over night to some bs lies kurn said to his tribe. Now I respect lama from the afraid of the dark account but he had peacepoacher on there and was stirring some shit. So he wanted a war with everyone against sw and sw never turned there back on us like daleks did. Why would I trust a tribe that screwed me once already to ally them to fight a tribe that has helped us? Why would I ally tbd when Mario hates me and does nothing but runs his mouth. Makes no sense to screw someone willing to help you over for some people that just want to win. Where was it fair to have 3 of the top 4 tribes fight sw? It wasn’t so I wasn’t having it. Y’all can call me a hugger or whatever but I certainly do not care. Trust and being loyal is 1 part in this game that most people are giving up and not doing anymore. Making it hard for players to play with eachother.

For those of you that think I’m going to bail on my guys that been with me since day 1 got me fked up. I’m not leaving my tribe to join sw even if they’re friends or not. I respect and love my tribe. If I didn’t I wouldn’t of made it. If I was going to leave I’d of been gone already. But I’m here to stay.

Yeah we are going to fight sw in the end and it’ll be a hell of a Fight. Won’t be easy as they have some very great players and so do I. It will be a fun fight. This game is suppose to be enjoyable and fun to play. But all this hate is ruining the game and this server. US use to be a greatly sized server at one point but it’s slowly crashing down to the top 100 players that are in every world.

All of you players that are doubting me being here with my tribe win or lose are just here to stir shit and try to make my friends in rated e think twice on how ill act. Check world stats when this world ends and I bet 110% I’m still here in rated e as a winner or as a tribe hat came in second place fighting there ass off against great competition. Hate me or don’t hate me. I’m here to play for fun and I enjoy playing with players or against players in other tribes that are friends I found on this game. What this is coming down to is just constant crying and whining because people don’t get there way anymore. Stop complaining and fight your fight. Everyone should just mind there own business and do what we came to this game for and play for enjoyment.

 

[Baja Blast]

What this is coming down to is just constant crying and whining because people don’t get there way anymore. Stop complaining and fight your fight. Everyone should just mind there own business and do what we came to this game for and play for enjoyment.

*their

 

[Dase]

So, what you told us in 30 sentences is that you reached out to TBD,Daleks,SW and pretty much every top tribe for an alliance.

As a player, imo you are bad.Like, very bad.captain nemo level bad.

You said you would still be in RatedE at the end of the world, not joining SW for the world win.Hopefully that you won't go around that by recruiting them instead.I'm really curious if you are a man of your word and you will fight SW at the end.you'll lose 100%, there's no doubt about that in my mind, but it would be the right thing to do.Too many worlds end with a merge or with people getting a spot in the winning at the end for their services while being in other tribes all world(as duke in your case).

Also, you have no idea what you're talking about when you say .us was a greatly sized server.It was always an average server in terms of size.And hate has nothing to do with the numbers going down.There's plenty other reasons, and to be fair, "hate" as you call it is what spices the game up.If we all agreed on anything and we'd all be friends and we'd all hug the name tribalWARS would be changed.But it is obvious that you enjoy the hugging, at least you admit that you looked for diplomacy with all the top tribes.

 

[BlendR3born]

Dase for one you’re irrelivent. Anything you say is just garbage coming out your mouth. I’m surprised you even have anyone to play with, with how much you talk crap on everyone. Let’s rewind a minute. When I was looking for tribes to work with I didn’t look at ranks. I looked to see the best locations to work with a tribe, then next I looked for who I knew. I didn’t look directly at top tribes. So just settle down old man.