Dase, I was in JPack* and UNITED. The problem both had was not a lack of skill, but more a lack of activity. Plain and simple, people didn't feel like fighting a war vs and opponent such as SPERG who had the majority of the 4 core Ks under their control. The reason the JPack vs GODS war went so well for JPack was because people actually participated in it because they weren't afraid of GODS like they were of SPERG. That being said, I do not think JPack would have lasted long on any other world. We did not have an incredibly strong or experienced leader and the two most experienced players in leading were not given very high respect by the leader. That being said, SPERG
SHOULDhave wiped the floor with JPack, there was no way a tribe like JPack could have even come close to competing with a tribe that had such a large head start as SPERG did.
UNITED had many of the same problems Jpack did, inactivity. The leaders were much better, and plans were made to actually fight, people simply did not listen to them and again, that is why SPERG won that war.
As for noobs, I cannot comment on the condition of their tribe because I was never in it, (I had things in rl that I had to deal with and wasn't really willing to fight a losing battle with a bunch of inactives). However, I can say that from the outside, they look like the most active members of JPack, GODS, The ~IV~ Family, and TheEnt (basically the most active members of UNITED) in one tribe that actually worked together and fought. I would have loved to have been apart of them and see SPERG's downfall.
Which brings me to my final point, SPERG's downfall (or as some will undoubtably "correct" me, SPERG quitting). From what I read on the forums, SPERG quit because they were not getting a response on the end game scenario from the .us staff. To me, this is nothing more than a cover-up story. Noobs looked like they were winning the war (from what I remember) and they were heavily motivated. To me, it seems like SPERG didn't want to put in the effort (or perhaps were incapable of putting in the effort
) to defeat noobs. If you want to claim that noobs had the advantage of barbs vs WAB, I would say that that SPERG had the entire tribe of Jpack and the remainder of UNITED and ~IV~ to noble, none of which could have put up a big fight in addition to a giant head start. SPERG, however, decided to make a big deal out of the endgame goals (or lack thereof) and quit even though common sense could have told them that if they kept nobling their enemies (like they claimed they could), they would win. To me, not a very solid excuse.
~spike
P.S please don't kill me over the many grammatical errors I'm sure I've made in this post, I've just been out in 95+ degree weather and am kinda tired.
EDIT: oh and Dase, unless I am forgetting something, I do not ever remember you being in JPack