People Against The Clan Hugging Alliances Deliberately Achieving Mediocre Success

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  1. Splian

    Splian Guest

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    The fear of WideOpen Spaces is a form of "Agoraphobia" and is nothing to joke around about. As seen in the graphic below, this debilitating illness affects a massive 1% of all Adult Americans.



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    It is theorized that there might be as many as 125 such villages here in w10 that could be considered "WideOpen".

    The contagiousness of this illness has not yet been determined but the CDC (Clown Directorate Council) believes agressive action needs to be taken.
    The gravity of the situation increase daily.

    Over the last few days, a dozen barbarian villages have succumb to this perilous infliction.



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    There is currently no known cure.

    The members of CLOWN (on advice from our Therapists) would like to Officially show their support for victims of this illness by eliminating all WideOpen places, from us10 in a war that shall be called: People Against The Clan Hugging Alliances Deliberately Achieving Mediocre Success - Or Patch Adams for short



    Many questions will be answered over the comign weeks....
    Will laughter prove to be the best medicine?
    Is there really such a thing as a wide open cluster?
    Is a no-life mmo gamer and an agoraphobe the same thing?
    How many Clowns can you fit in a WideOpen space?
    Will someone come up with a clever Pagliacci joke?


    Stay tuned :) We'll find out soon enough.





     
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  2. Splian

    Splian Guest

    Side 1:
    Tribes: , CLOWN
    Side 2:
    Tribes: , WO, WO2, WO3
    Players: chainmail, marylka202, vohnus


    Timeframe: Since Adam and Eve



    Total conquers against opposite side:


    Side 1: 28
    Side 2: 2
    Difference: 26


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    Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


    Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


    Side 1: 107,328
    Side 2: 8,060
    Difference: 99,268


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    ODA (ballpark figures):
    Side1: +465,000
    Side2: +14,000

    Top Clown Haymakers on Day1:
    1. Hamulah 79k oda
    2. Curly Howard 65k oda
    3. Zorro 61k oda

    Donkey Prize for least oda goes to Splian with 9 total on Day 1. [​IMG]




    Random War Facts:
    - (former) #1 player in the tribe/Baron Chainmail has chosen to "save the tribe" by leaving it on Day1 of the war. His additional contribution can be seen here (more barb nobling). 102,000 odd for you. Well done chainmail, wonder how much of that support belonged to your former friends.

    - Marylka, has amassed 122,000 ODD on day 1. Well done Mary. I can't help but wonder whether some of your tribe mates could have used some of that defence. Better to save yourself, that's what I always say. Lo and behold, the dust hasn't settled on Day 1 and Mary is out the door also.
     
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  3. Thatguy44

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    Thank god. I've been waiting for a PnP for a week now. Was starting to think there wasn't goin to be any wars in w10. :(
     
  4. Sweeney

    Sweeney Royal Guardian W17

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    Very nice PnP, although I'll be surprised if WO manage to make this an interesting war.
     
  5. pk3rz 30

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    Not a bad PnP. Good luck to both sides.
     
  6. Elixir

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    This is the first good .us pnp, no joke.
     
  7. Tribal Wars Gods

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    So you guys are against barb nobling but your baron arieanon is nobling barbs non stop...
    Something's not right here.
     
  8. Splian

    Splian Guest

    We love barbnobling, I've nobled more than my share also. This war is against "wideopen places".. did that not come through in my original post? Something definitely is not right here if you weren't able to follow along. The war is called Patch Adams since they achieved mediocre success through tribe hugging and that defeats the purpose of a game called 'tribal wars' wouldn't you say?

    TWStats should show that Arieanon's last 5 ennoblements have been against a tribe called Wideopen.. (it's not a coincidence, it's the name of the tribe we are waging war with) Once the war is over, people are welcome to noble whatever villages they want to. Personally i'd take a 1k point barb rather than a 200 point player getting out of beginner protection....

    Some of us can't rely on just internalling or finding players that aren't in a tribe. Hows legacy doing by the way? As my father always says.. if at first you don't succeed, leave your tribe hide in other tribes, wait till the coast is clear then reform the original tribe at a later date... it's okay to lose all the wars you're in.. just as long as you get recruited to the tribe that wins at the end.
     
  9. Tribal Wars Gods

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    Barbnobling=tribalhugs no matter how you say it.I noticed he finally nobled some players,but this doesn't change the fact that he is an barb nobled.
    Legacy is gone now,so I guess you're trying to make me feel like legacy was worse than clown?You've got no idea what you're talking sbout bro.
    Legacy was the best while it was held together by the return. guys.
     
  10. pk3rz 30

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    This, I disagree on. I'd prefer to play in the winning tribe from the start than be a random recruit at the end.
     
  11. Tribal Wars Gods

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    I agree with pk.Switching tribes just to save your ass is not cool.
     
  12. Firequeen

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    I agree ... I'm frequently amazed at the lengths some will go to just to end up on the winning side.
    Of course sometimes the attempt to do that backfires. :D
     
  13. Splian

    Splian Guest

    Tribal hugs is more about taking a potentially hostile situation and choosing peace rather than war. Sometimes there are just no hostile situations near you. Some players choose to noble 10-12hours away, while others prefer to build in a cluster. There are pros and cons to both. The most obvious being, nobling low point barbarian villages vs having your forces spread out at a great distance as Aring, coochy and many others did. Unfortunately while you can use premium points to quickly raise a village, you can't spend points and move villages closer together. If this was .net (odd numbered worlds because i heard even numbered ones were pay to win also?) it would be a different situation.

    My point on legacy has nothing to do with clown. My point is people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You are critiquing someone else's start strategy when your tribe of experienced? skilled? players used a non-barb nobling start up strategy and what did it get them? You guys ran and hid in other tribes, END, RC, (etc). You took a potentially hostile situation and chose to hide to avoid conflict. This is my definition of tribal hugs. And who did you run from? Pros?
    - WO (slaughtered by Clown.. you're welcome by the way),
    - Pro (slaughtered by Clown.. again, you're welcome)
    - END (tribes almost gone, most active players moved to L,L),
    - NA (gone).
    - X? (last of the anti-legacy alliance?)
    - ??? i don't know what other tribes were in the alliance

    I meant it sarcastically. I was bringing light to the situation that most legacy ran to avoid a fight and tribal hugged their way to peace in order to survive. But if they were to win the world, you wont hear anything about that.. it will just be how they are skilled and awesome players. The fact is, they were in a war, and they lost it and thus the sentence .. "it's okay to lose every war, as long as you win at the end"
     
  14. Splian

    Splian Guest

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    I wont be updating the stats anymore as many players have been kicked, left for safety, or have quit their w10 accounts. I apologize for this war not being more dramatic, we expected a bit more resiliency from WO as they were ranked #7 and had a few academy tribes we thought would help with resources or at least with some smack talk.. . it's been pretty quiet business as usual affair. I appreciate the kind words about the pnp (my first one) - i thought it would get flamed pretty badly. You guys show a lot of class :)
     
  15. Tribal Wars Gods

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    Wait,what?We ran from x,wo,pro and all the others?
    Most of them aren't even near me,so I don't have what to thank you for.
    Legacy failed because people left it.I didn't run to save my ass.
    I stayed until there were only 4 players left and I didn't run to any of the tribes near for protection.
    I made a tribe with curiousgeorge and I really don't think I ran from any war so far.

    You guys defeated WO...

    WOOOOOW.Awesome!Was it hard to defeat a bunch of noobs ?
    And dude,if you truly think that the fact that some players prefer to noble players even if they are far away is a mistake,you should just quit tw.
    Honestly,I'd rather have my first target an 4k points village at 10 hours by noble instead of an 200 points barb.
     
  16. Splian

    Splian Guest

    Were you at war with wo/x/pro etc? Yes
    Did you win the war? No
    Did you lose the war? Yes
    Did the war stop when legacy was proven to be a failure of a tribe? Yes

    You not being close to the other players in the war is the same thing as 1 of your villages being 10 hours away from the other. Are you going to use that as an excuse also? I was 30 hours away from the fight so i didn't bother participating in it. My village was 30 hours away from my other village so i didn't bother defending it. Your tribe failed. Your start up strategy failed to protect your tribe. Your recruitment policy failed to protect your tribe. Your nobling strategy failed to protect your tribe. Your cohesion failed to keep your tribe together. The players that left succeeded in protecting themselves. WO is/was a nub tribe - and your tribe still failed. NA was a nub-filled MRT - and your tribe still failed. Pro was a highly skilled tribe that used the same techniques as legacy - and the tribe still failed. You need to drop your ego and realize that this isn't a personal attack against who you are. We all fail. I've failed in 100's of fights in dozens of games. Who cares. Just laugh it off and move on.

    I'm NOT saying that your start up strategy is bad or good. What i am saying is Tribal wars isn't won on paper. There are times when you can play everything perfectly according to the book of TW guidelines written by Gods of the game AND STILL FAIL. There are times when you can do the opposite of everything you "should" and still succeed. I'm not saying I agree with Arie, or would recommend others do what he did. I think Arie is ...lets just say i think he or she is a combination of words that would get me banned if i wrote them out. I have as much respect for him/her as I do for anyone that chooses to pay to win a game rather than play it with integrity and hard work ONLY (sans cashola). However just because i play that way, doesn't make it right. His/Her strategy has worked. Doesn't make it right or wrong. Some people would argue without pay to win players there would be no tribal wars at all. First Rim him, then talk smack - your words will carry more weight... i'll gladly write the pnp for the TBD vs Arieanon op. I'm sure i could think of some basketball related "buy your way to the rim" jokes.
     
  17. StivenBauss

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    First of all we didn't lose the war. The war didn't even start!

    United formed a 10 tribe alliance against 7 players. Noob or not noob that is just annoying. Most of us did what needed to be done to continue playing this world. There is not way 7 players can defend against 300 players contastantly attacking them. Maybe if the "war" started once everyone had more villages, and more troops built up. But that was just planned slaughtering.

    The fact is that many of Legacy's players are still playing this world, and our start up didnt fail. It was just the tribalhugs.net alliance that made us decide to not even bother wasting our time. That "war" would have stunned us so much that we would have to just restart on the rim like TWTank.
     
  18. Splian

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    You say that war with the MRT's would have stunted your growth and would be a waste of time. Arie could argue that nobling a player (and losing troops) would stunt his growth and waste his time. You say that Legacy's start up didn't fail and that many players are still playing the world - so is Arieanon.

    I've seen on more than numerous occasions small elite tribes targetted by MRTs. 7 barracks just can't compare with 300 barracks. Arieanon is like the player equivalent of an MRT.. a mass recruiting player if you will. By nobling a bunch of barbs as part of early game strategy, he can mass recruit himself into a dominant world position. Then later in game he (or she) can target player-owned villages like they are doing now.

    This MRT/barbnobling/paytowin strategy is a resource that small elite tribes look down on. If there was a rule that the first tribe you joined could be the only tribe you could win with, then how many 7 player elites would win? There is no "consequence" in this game for failure and I've always maintained that players in tribes that fail should be punished for failure (which legacy did). Everytime you leave a tribe or fail a war, permanent 2% reduction to your account for that world:
    - 2% less resources produced
    - 2% less haul
    - 2% slower troop build
    - 2% less attack
    - 2% less defense
    - 1% less maximum luck, 1% more minimum luck (-26 to +24)
    - maximum 98% loyalty on your villages
    Aring would be sitting at 20% reduction across the board. It's how i feel but considering all this is NOT a rule.. MRT's and barbnobling are acceptable start up strategies in my opinion.
     
  19. Sweeney

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    Legacy was gangbanged, and its members did what anyone in their right mind would do.

    Splian, I like you, you're a nice guy. But your making yourself look like an idiot.
     
  20. StivenBauss

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    Thank you Sweeney.

    This is tribal wars, not tribal hugs. Its normal for people to noble other people as their first targets. Its normal for two tribes to start a dispute or a war.

    It is not normal however for 10 full tribes to go after 7 players even before the top 100 has nobles.
     
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