The Carousel of Love W35 Edition

[DeletedUser707]

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W35 started off with glimmer and hope. That maybe, just maybe this world can be different. We have players from W25 here, who fought their way through W25 with out much help or hugging.(Savage) You have players from W31 here who just won their world. Players from W33 who got sick of attack bnb hugging everyone to take out the number three tribe. Then we have players trying to start fresh from W34 as that world fell on its face.

Spoiler: W34

Within hours of the world starting this glimmer and hopefuliness shortly faded. It was obvious. This world will be just like the rest. We already have two family tribes (that I know of) Including the top tribe. Which is loaded with "expert players" who need a family tribe so they can merge accounts.

Which to me says "I'm not good enough to secure my first village on my own tactically so I am going to take this free village and now ill have two players on my account, two villages and a full nuke"

This is the issue with the US server. You have 3-4 cliques on this server. They always want to play together and have to play together. The more worlds they play the more friends they meet the more families they have to create to all play together. They are to afraid of just shaking hands and fighting on one world. Then being friends the next world. They would rather have a 50 man family tribe on a world that at the time they formed didnt even have 300 players. Then to fight for a world win. I know this is a "Clique" friends only tribe because when I asked to join for experimental purposes I got this...

So not trying to bash Lovvvvve or the elite "Dream Team" But for one world if not this the next can we please leave the hugging and family tribes to the noobs. Thats how it use to be. Players didnt need to merge or start family tribes because they knew their skill would carry over. They didn't need all their friends in one tribe because they know there will be another world where they can play with their friends. Im playing with mostly new players in my tribe that I have never played with before and its exciting. There is nothing wrong with playing with new people and not creating a handicap for a world win.


You guys wonder why the US server is so easy. You have 50 players merging into 25 players. (25 players, 50 villages) They still have good sized nukes so now they can all take another village. (25 players 75 villages) Because your first village was free unless you hit a major turtle you should still have a decent size nuke but we will assume 10 players hit a turtle. (25 players 90 villages)


So now you have 25 players x 90 villages at 2.5k = 225,000k


Compared to a tribe who fought for theirs.
25 players 50 villages
Now because we had to fight for our first village lets say only 10 of us had a big enough nuke to get a 3rd (most of the time its even less then 10 out of 25)

25 players 60 villages x 2.5k = 150,000

So not only do you almost double the 2nd place tribe. but you have 30 more villages too which mean more troops, faster growth and an even more handicap to win the world. The US server isn't easy because the players are good, its easy because the players need handicaps to win worlds.

 

[DeletedUser7869]

Beautiful (tear drop)

 

[DeletedUser7869]

I`m an artist

 

[DeletedUser]

Lmao!!!!

 

[Dase]

Yeah, kinda sucks that DT has so many strong players who will also get a little boosted by merging.

I do have something to say about your first post though.Savage in w25 won without much help or hugging .Come on, they had a coalition between rank 2 3 4 to beat Free.Not saying they didn't partially deserve the win, but still.

Hopefully this world will be different.I don't see a lot of potential for most tribes, DT will most likely hold the rank 1 spot for a long time and chances are, until the end.

I see EX has some old Free! members and also a few new ones.Will be interesting to see how that goes and for the sake of this world I hope you don't leave Jimmy, the world has a lot of potential if you can get EX to reach a stage where you can give DT a good fight.

But with names such as 2much4u, nauzhror, ramon, sergey, clara <3, carter, cowboy etc etc, DT has by far the best roaster at this moment.Luckily for the world, EX has a relatively easy k while DT will have to fight Cain early on so EX might have a small chance to catch up or they will be left behind by a lot more if Cain turns out to be easy food and like I said with a roaster of beast start uppers like DT's, anyone is easy food until mid game.

 

[DeletedUser]

Now I'm not going to be advocating "hugging" or whatever because I too would like to experience an equal fight alongside a top tribe, but you have to realize some things here.

This game is not what is was in the past, and I don't have to play for 10+ years to realize what's been happening. You can see the player base very clearly declining from us.twstats. I've seen multiple posts of you referencing and comparing to what happened in the past (as many others in this game like to do I've noticed).

The very nature of this game revolves around other people. You're not going to get anywhere playing with yourself. This makes things very personal for some people, and very hard for new people, as well as experienced players that want to stay "neutral" and not join a "clique". If you hate somebody in this game you're sure as hell not going to play with this in another world. Which comes back to your "clique" point. It's never going to go away at this point, especially not on the .us server where everybody and their mothers know each other if they played for more than 2 or 3 worlds.

I also want to address the problems with family tribes and merging. Most people in this game have lives outside of TW. People quit very frequently. I'm sure you have too since I recall seeing one of your posts with you quitting as a leader of a tribe. From a strategic standpoint, what is the solution to this? Family tribes. This solves the problem of half your tribe going inactive because of real life issues and also give new players a chance to shine, I sure as hell wouldn't have been where I am without a friend bringing me into an academy tribe. Doesn't matter how good you are at the game, if you're inactive, you're going to be useless to your tribe. So what's the solution to this? There isn't one, it's a lose-lose scenario as long as the player base keeps dropping.

And what about pre-mades? They are a good idea, but only if there are enough of them to matter. And the fact stands that the .us server DO NOT have enough experienced players to actually form MULTIPLE good pre-mades on a single world. And this is made even worse by the fact that people have preferences to who they want or do not want to play with. I just don't see this happening anymore.

Agree with me or not, I just wanted to get this out there, all the circlejerking about "hugging" when it's really just people hating on each other and using "hugging" as an excuse, was pissing me off lol.

Thanks for reading.

 

[DeletedUser7869]

Blahblahblah. izy K for us. idc if we have to go 1kvs3ks.

 

[DeletedUser7869]

And Dream, wake up. you need some Reality :*

 

[DeletedUser]

Yeah Chowder I'll give you 3 months Let's see if your tribe is still here.

The good players don't brag about ez 1v3k, they actually win them instead of bitching about how much of an uphill battle it is

 

[DeletedUser2999]

And the trash talking begins!

*grabs popcorn*

 

[DeletedUser7869]

I`m not bitching

You don`t know me, I don`t know you.
But is clearly you did not played atleast last world if you come with that "smoked" post here.

 

[DeletedUser7869]

We and DT will "merge" accounts

 

[DeletedUser6712]

Have read 1st post and Dase' post.

So first you say no hugging. On my opinion there is nothing wrong with hugging. Diplomacy was made as option to the game to use it. So what if from world to world lots of tribes hugging, YOU should get skill, get busy, get better and beat those huggers instead of being keyboardwarrrior....
Now it is unfair to have awesome people playing co played accounts, next thing will be - " you are making troops 24/7 how dare you?"

Simple minded quit hating. I got a hold of good players from the past that I have played on same side or opposite. Sorry but I do have respect even for enemies.

It was my dream to put all of my friends together. Too bad I am social and know too many good folks around? Or is it unfair that most of those folks do have co played accounts? I absoltuely would love to invite Dase and TheOne to the tribe as well, and they know it as well.

We could of have 1 main tribe where all main account in and that's all, but it would of been hustle to update everyone on things as worlds goes on.

Plus why the hell are you talking about my tribe? Because we are too good for you? Focus on your own.

Sadly for you, everyone have chance to join our tribe, and I do read all applications and all messages, and I do take time to reply to everyone. If player have skill, common sense, positive attitude, why not let him join? Are u going to get more butthurt if DT will decide to open recruitment and do some cherry picking, so your chances not being rimmed will get even smaller?

I am not gonna take my time and take your message apart and show that maybe you did math right but you have no idea what is DT all about.
,you are just being silly and jealous and you know that we are the best at the moment.

 

[DeletedUser7869]

Hold on dear Sergey, You can`t rly sense jokes ?
Dream is in his own "dream:"
It is start of the world. As I said, I dont care who i have to fight, made the meme just for lols as I said
Why would we quit ? ) just because you are too good ? Here you get a lil arrogant but i`ll move over this time since you can`t sense jokes and sarcasm.

You don`t know me, my ucranian neighboard.
I`m not jelous at all, i don`t care that everyone have a chance to join you, good for them.
I have one mision for now.
Dominate k54.
It is eazy. as I said above. But "dreamer" read that is eazy 1k vs 3k, not my PROBLEMO that he can`t read propely, as is not his problem if i write like sh!t.

So don`t take it to hard

 

[DeletedUser6712]

No problem bud, was about to get elevated and write you some looong message but i will try to make it short. Sadly, sometimes I do not get jokes and I do take this game pretty serious. Just want to point out couple things: majority of top acco are co played, it is what it is, solo acco just can not keep up with co played. More people can physically click more and be online more then one person. Add same skill level to them, will be same story. More people can click more buttons, farm more, attack and support more.

As how you know every player have its own acc, so when co played acc come to play world, player most likely players start on separately and merge when nobles come out or even later. This strategy - merging the accounts was not invented by me, it is not news. Rules are not prohibited these practices as well.

I played with 95% of my tribe mates, I know most of them for more then a year by name. It was my dream to put all of awesome players in same tribe. Most account are co played. As how I said it is logically it does make sense to make sure that communication is established among everyone, which is creating second tribe for co players.

You made point why not wait for other worlds. Personally I waited for this opportunity 3 worlds, some of our tribe mates waiter longer. On this note - some of us made PP specially for this world. I do not want to be offensive but you and your crew can sit and wait from world to world, I prefer to take over NOW.

This is not my first day on the block. My first world was us8. I know what I am doing, only one difference now - my family stacked with pro vets and monsters of tribal wars. I am sorry for my social personality and ability to put pro vets and monsters in same tribe! Will i be able to keep them together? I pre made Vendetta for world 27 and run it for some time. Vendetta end up winning world. I was Duke of DZ - Deez Nutz on 28, which merged into world winning Sharks which I duked for some time as well. I learned the game from the best and i had the best enemies (wicked aka ape). Our train is about to take off, and so far it seems as whole world going to have to hug it out to stop us. So best of luck

It seems that we are capable of constructive criticisms and respectful conversation. I have question for you: i hope it is obvious that there are a lot of players applying to the DT. All kinds of players. Question to you > Why DT shouldn't do some cherry picking among those applicants to secure map coverage and core establishment along with domination on certain K, along with giving chance to those guys join our group? Because we all know that even top dogs, in this case even myself have problems with endurance and some accounts will go afk and will empty spots in the tribe.

P.S. Too bad tomarraya is busy and Ez b is making PP

 

[DeletedUser7869]

I don`t know anyone from pros, vets or monster either you call em Just becasue I don`t know em.

I will not showoff my twstast here, you`ll see them on battleground.
This is my second world on US, who dahell said i waited n worlds ? I`m new here, i`m here to have fun.. Wish you the best and see you on the map.

I`m sure all theunvierse wants in D Team So no need to bad word it out.

At your PS same, who are them ? Don`t show off me names like i must know them lol
i`m new to game, no knowledge about the comunity. not the chance to learn from the best :/

Hope I wont get crushed by allmighty star team.

 

[DeletedUser6712]

Best of luck bud! Love your attitude! Absolutely like wise, see you on the battlefield and my apologies for my cocky attitude.

 

[DeletedUser6712]

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W35 started off with glimmer and hope. That maybe, just maybe this world can be different. We have players from W25 here, who fought their way through W25 with out much help or hugging.(Savage) You have players from W31 here who just won their world. Players from W33 who got sick of attack bnb hugging everyone to take out the number three tribe. Then we have players trying to start fresh from W34 as that world fell on its face.

Spoiler: W34

Within hours of the world starting this glimmer and hopefuliness shortly faded. It was obvious. This world will be just like the rest. We already have two family tribes (that I know of) Including the top tribe. Which is loaded with "expert players" who need a family tribe so they can merge accounts.

Which to me says "I'm not good enough to secure my first village on my own tactically so I am going to take this free village and now ill have two players on my account, two villages and a full nuke"

This is the issue with the US server. You have 3-4 cliques on this server. They always want to play together and have to play together. The more worlds they play the more friends they meet the more families they have to create to all play together. They are to afraid of just shaking hands and fighting on one world. Then being friends the next world. They would rather have a 50 man family tribe on a world that at the time they formed didnt even have 300 players. Then to fight for a world win. I know this is a "Clique" friends only tribe because when I asked to join for experimental purposes I got this...

So not trying to bash Lovvvvve or the elite "Dream Team" But for one world if not this the next can we please leave the hugging and family tribes to the noobs. Thats how it use to be. Players didnt need to merge or start family tribes because they knew their skill would carry over. They didn't need all their friends in one tribe because they know there will be another world where they can play with their friends. Im playing with mostly new players in my tribe that I have never played with before and its exciting. There is nothing wrong with playing with new people and not creating a handicap for a world win.


You guys wonder why the US server is so easy. You have 50 players merging into 25 players. (25 players, 50 villages) They still have good sized nukes so now they can all take another village. (25 players 75 villages) Because your first village was free unless you hit a major turtle you should still have a decent size nuke but we will assume 10 players hit a turtle. (25 players 90 villages)


So now you have 25 players x 90 villages at 2.5k = 225,000k


Compared to a tribe who fought for theirs.
25 players 50 villages
Now because we had to fight for our first village lets say only 10 of us had a big enough nuke to get a 3rd (most of the time its even less then 10 out of 25)

25 players 60 villages x 2.5k = 150,000

So not only do you almost double the 2nd place tribe. but you have 30 more villages too which mean more troops, faster growth and an even more handicap to win the world. The US server isn't easy because the players are good, its easy because the players need handicaps to win worlds.

i got elevated, came up with short answer - don't say hop before you jump!
all that sound good in one post, but after all it is more then month of work and coordination.
25 people can not magically take over 90 villages or 60 villages from the bet in day or two day period. get those 25 people to noble status first!

 

[DeletedUser707]

I think you guys missed the main point of my post. So im going to help you read between the lines on this one

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Im not saying don't play with your friends, or don't have cliques. I'm saying if the member cap is 25.... make your group of friends 25 not 50. Since W39 the only worlds I joined were worlds lead by Foc, Googly, and Hybrid (on .net). They are still to this day some of my best friends. I understand this game revolves around trust and friendship. But we never once went over the member limit. There is no need to have had 50 people on a world that at the moment only had 300 players. I get the whole inactive thing. There is nothing wrong with kicking a player internalling him and inviting a new player. You don't need a family tribe to fix this problem.

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Hopefully that cleared things up a bit. Also don't take this to personal Love, yes it annoyed me that you guys have a family tribe already but in reality I don't care that much was just a good topic to try and get the W35 forums popping and I believe it succeeded

 

[DeletedUser707]

@Dream Special shout out for saying "I quit as a leader" on W25. I got deployed to Afghanistan, was late noticed. Had three weeks to pack my stuff and send my wife back to our home town. So yeah I had to leave W25 as I was not going to be able to play for a solid month+.