W25 NewsLetter: Opening Days

DeletedUser

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Good to have you back, try not to leave next time, or else I might get all the blame again :D
 

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No one blamed you.An enemy of the tribe isn't blamed for taking the tribe down.Only tribe members can be blamed for that.And honestly,you weren't a Free member anymore way before you left to join Savage.

But yes,we all blame you for betraying us,that's a different thing though.It was to be expected though,we all knew what you were up to zeze.I remember AFB did something similar in world 22,he taught you well.
 

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Wether you like it or not, I was a member of Free!. Why am I the bad guy? Why don't you look at it like council being the bad guys?

Oh and fyi, I abandond the AFB account, AFTER that Bomber joined the enemy tribe. I joined another account in hopes of rimming AFB, that however is another story. Get your information right next time.
 

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Wether you like it or not, I was a member of Free!. Why am I the bad guy? Why don't you look at it like council being the bad guys?

Oh and fyi, I abandond the AFB account, AFTER that Bomber joined the enemy tribe. I joined another account in hopes of rimming AFB, that however is another story. Get your information right next time.

I can't look at it like council were the bad guys because we had no council.Yeah,sure,after jimmy left matt and w-k tried to lead,they didn't to great,but not so bad also considering they didn't expect to become leaders just like that.You were a member of free early game,last month before free was gone you weren't and you know it.When w-k talked to you about your war stats in a month being 0,absolutely 0,you came up with excuses and you said you did fight our enemies but in the war stats you had 0 oda.0 bro,0.Yes,you were a member.You were in the tribe I mean.A spy is a member of the tribe he spies on also,right?

I didn't say you didnt abandon afb or that you did.I just said you learned a lot from that guy,that's all.My information is right every time,don't worry,I may be spamming a lot,but I don't think when I stated something I couldn't prove it at that moment if anyone asked for proof.Sure,hard to prove now that some savage players said they will merge with c* and then back stabbed them that the accounts are gone and so are the mails,but still,for some things such as your warstats while you were in Free I don't need any proof,it's a known thing that you only started supporting people 3 days before you left to make them allies so they wouldn't attack you after you left.Don't try to deny it,I can prove to you that your account had low opponents defeated as supporter.When 10 of us had 300k+ you had under 50k as supporter.

You were invited in Free and you joined.That puts you on the member list.But being a member means something different.
 

DeletedUser707

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Dase ZeZe is not a traitor. He joined Free! because I was the duke and we were friends and I asked them too. ZeZe left free! shortly after I left. Shows ZeZe is loyal but was more loyal to the leader than the tribe which there is nothing wrong with that. Loyalty is loyalty no matter if you slice it, or dice it.

No point in arguing about it though ZeZe was a great member of Free! while I was leading it. I will take ZeZe in a future tribe of mine if the opportunity arrived.
 

DeletedUser

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I never spied, I don't do that shit, ask whoever you want. As for the stats, I explained that to you guys. I was highest rank in the tribe, most enemy villages conquered and troops killed. The reason I wasn't the highest ODS was because I was on the front, I had 75% of my villages right beside enemy villages. However I sniped numerous times for the players around me, and I only ever asked for support once and surprise surprise didn't receive any. All this, and the stats do prove my point, yet you guys decided to bash me... No one took my side and then you expect me to stay? Pathetic.

As for Savage and C* I'm pretty sure the end game merge was never set in stone, they had diplomacy but only up until a given date which would be discussed over and over again. So I wouldn't say that they backstabbed anyone. I may be wrong though ;)
 

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Most enemy villages conquered?Most troops killed?You know oda and odd and ods show how many troops you kill right?

I was on bidam as you know.Let's check twstats.
When we left the account for deletion we had 1.6m od.Not so much,but decent,we were top 5.
That was 14th of september.
At the same date,while having more villages than us,you had 1.2m od.
You were on the frontline right?300k ODD is all you had.300k odd on an account with 34 villages at that time and 268k points.
You were on the front,you must've fought C* and W-DEN a lot right?You never conquered a village from either of them,you took a few from C* long after free was gone and you were already in Savage.


THE STATS PROVE YOUR POINT?You didn't conquer from C or Savage or W-den.You weren't attacked.You didn't support.What do these stats prove?
You find excuses and you are so stupid to lie about stats when twstats saves everything.Go to the savage+c vs free was stats and see your own stats,make a print and post it here if you got the balls.Sure,you had some oda,not great,just some,but it wasn't from c or savage,it was from nubs that you took to grow your account,not from a war.

And about ODS.You didn't support cuz you were on the frontline?Come on,I had 50% of my vills near w-den,had a few near C* as well.It didn't stop me to send to those who needed it more than me.

Nobody bashed you.You wanted to be in control of everything.At one point you said u will be the one to organize ops.Did you organize any?I don't remember you doing it.All you did was cry about leadership but didn't do anything yourself to change that and you expected what?To become leader?You are so arrogant,I am too,but I don't lie as you do.Phah,stats prove your point...At least learn how to lie,you can never lie about stats as they are saved either in game of by twstats.And yours sucked.

I'm waiting for that print mate,prove me wrong.Prove me that your war stats were amazing.I had a better oppinnion about you zeze,but you don't deserve my respect.Not for what you've done in w25,but for saying all these lies to make yourself look better.I expected more from you.

Come on,you said the stats prove your point.Login on your w25 acc and post the print with your acc's war stats from the free-c-savage war.Show me that I am wrong.
 

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Dase ZeZe is not a traitor. He joined Free! because I was the duke and we were friends and I asked them too. ZeZe left free! shortly after I left. Shows ZeZe is loyal but was more loyal to the leader than the tribe which there is nothing wrong with that. Loyalty is loyalty no matter if you slice it, or dice it.

No point in arguing about it though ZeZe was a great member of Free! while I was leading it. I will take ZeZe in a future tribe of mine if the opportunity arrived.

You didn't play all the way,you don't know how it all went.He was loyal to you maybe,not to Free.If he was a fair player he would've left right as you left,not wait until it was safe for him to leave and use us until then.
 

DeletedUser

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Thank god for internet history huh:

Since you asked for it, here you go:

https://gyazo.com/9700f9a0fcb847952c45b9271535f8c7
https://gyazo.com/ca1f4e077943100c198fad08e59626bb
https://gyazo.com/8a084c31188c0bf0973430dfcd1a8288
https://gyazo.com/7310867df4d479da34b038ac80ce45fa
https://gyazo.com/d23e5d82754b2a7807d04fd1f16cca6b
https://gyazo.com/2a9c193a3df517726f772abe04376fea
https://gyazo.com/89c3338c42a24e07c718003276b36a97
https://gyazo.com/24ad73fc01b13dc9702d9acc571c4449
https://gyazo.com/89bd3faecbe203de0aaca58ecc5571db
https://gyazo.com/b3433ee77d1ed4d7c418244c8adfad7d
https://gyazo.com/0d45a5911199a7c64f05d3bdcb19eca5

In no particular order since I'm too lazy to sort them but I think if you go from start to bottom it'll make some sense. Oh and if you're wondering why I'm being cocky? Well if you're going to threaten to kick me then that's just how things go. The saddest part is that WK wanted answers, I them to him in the forums and then he deleted the thread... good thing I took screenshots which forced him to put it back up again huh
 

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NONONONONONNONO

I asked and please read carefully this time for stats in the FREE vs SAVAGE+C* war.Read carefully zeze.not the all time war stats or free or something.In your first print I see you nobled 10 villages.That's nice.

http://us.twstats.com/us25/index.php?page=player&mode=conquers&id=702862&type=gain&pn=-1

Do you see any C/Savage conquest on your account?Or at least W-DEN though they weren't as big as c or savage?
And by conquest I mean while you were in free,not your noblings on maximusss when you were in savage.
Don't manipulate your prints.Show me the stats you claimed to have against savage and c.
Those are all time stats and excuse me bruh,Free was at war with 2-3 small tribes from which you gained vills.Tribes who had 5% of our points,don't show the stats against those.Sure,stats don't mean much.For example,see our stats on bidam veer,kinda low,right?only that we did noble w-den while war was not declared between the tribes officially.You could bring that in your excuse and I would admit you are right,you did something for the tribe.But then I remember you did not want to hit them,probably because you were near them and were afraid you'd be hit back.And your conquer stats from above prove that,you didn't noble any of them or any of c or any of savage.


I've repeated myself a few times already.Post stats from free vs c+savage.In those stats you posted I can see summer sadness,she was gone weeks before any fight started with any of the tribes I named so far.

Like I said zeze,you lie about your stats when everything is easily checked with twstats now.
You even tried to hide those were all time war stats by cropping the image haha so we couldn't see it,we can just see war stats and they look good when you don't know those were against tribes under top 10 :)))))


Great work mate,great work.
 

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By the way,you could have worked harder on proving me your stats are good rather then show me the mails you had.
You try to sort of change the topic so it goes into your favor,but no,it's not working mate.

Show me an report of you supporting someone and losing troops for it.Show me an report of you nobling C or Savage or w-den when you were in free.
Obviously it's been a while,you prob don't have any reports even if you did hit them(you didn't) but some kind of proof to back up what you said about your stats.Cuz so far all I see is you trying to avoid this.

I repeated my self 100 times I want the stats from free vs savage+C war you give me the all time stats.Did you think I wouldn't realize that?
 

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I wasn't close enough to noble anything from Savage, however, I did noble 6 W-DEN villages and 6 C* villages. That's more than what anyone else in Free! did and that includes you. The fact that you did not check the screenshots whilst still having the audacity to reply shows how ignorant you are.
 
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Dase

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Oh my god....Check your twstats and see how many you nobled from w-den and c.
0.All you nobled from C* was maximusss when you were in savage.

http://us.twstats.com/us25/index.php?page=player&mode=conquers&id=702862&type=gain&pn=-1


I can't see anyone from Savage/C/W-den when you were in Free except for one C* member that had only 2 villages when you had like 10+,can you?Maybe I should wear glasses to see better,but I doubt it's the case.
 

DeletedUser

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I don't think I ever mentioned this but me leaving didn't matter as I was bound to get kicked sooner or later account to WK. He threatened to kick me and then said that I'd get kicked once the tribe had setup some sort of "OP" to wipe me out. I mean, it is debatable that WK and co were the traitors from my perspective.. or?
 

DeletedUser

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You never checked the screenshots did you. I quote:

"Now take note that I have taken into account the players who have been kicked/barbed after I have started nobling them as I think that is reasonable. I'd consider the tribes mentioned as enemies and as you can see, 22 out of my 34 nobled villages have been enemy villages. Pretty sure at least 2 of those barbs are enemy villages but there is no way I can prove that.

No war stats? That's bullsh*t."

Also, the villages nobled by me in those screenshots were up until September the 12th, before I joined Savage.
 

DeletedUser

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It's funny how upset you are by losing this world Dase. Maybe you should have stepped up to lead Free when you had a chance. Would have saved you months of bitching on the forums trying to convince everyone that you are important.

You're not important, I'll repeat it once more....YOU QUIT!
 

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You never checked the screenshots did you. I quote:

"Now take note that I have taken into account the players who have been kicked/barbed after I have started nobling them as I think that is reasonable. I'd consider the tribes mentioned as enemies and as you can see, 22 out of my 34 nobled villages have been enemy villages. Pretty sure at least 2 of those barbs are enemy villages but there is no way I can prove that.

No war stats? That's bullsh*t."

Also, the villages nobled by me in those screenshots were up until September the 12th, before I joined Savage.

Enemy villages...Yes,everyone was enemy but tribes who were 20 times smaller than us don't really count mate,I was referring to the war with C and Savage and W-den.Your screenshots show nothing.except for the first they are all mails.I've read those as well.

In https://gyazo.com/7310867df4d479da34b038ac80ce45fa this print you said 6 w-den,6 C* villages right?
Now looking at twstats I can see 2 C* villages from players who weren't even top 200 at that time I believe and one Den,a tribe who got to max 70k points in the world at it's top.I don't see where you are getting the 6 C* 6 w-den villages from that print,on twstats things are different.Sure,your hits on C* were kicked from C* and you nobled them after,adding 3 more villages who used to be in C* but weren't anymore.But let's take them into consideration,sure.Now we're still left with finding the rest of the villages you claimed to have nobled.
And we're also stuck with your ods that was close to 0 and looking at your 3 times bigger account you got now,it's at 388k,which is still under what @ 10 of the Free players had with way smaller accounts than yours right now,like 4-5 times smaller or even more in some cases.



@Authority,yes I did quit.You joined narnbarnflaye acc right?The account that jimmy made sure would jump ships to free?The account that would have back stabbed savage if jimmy was still around?Dont trust me,look at what jimmy said earlier about having a few players ready to switch sides.May I add pelinjo to that list as well?It happens that I've been sitting jimmy's account at one point and he had them marked on the map in a group named something like future members or something,I believe they are the players who's names jimmy didn't want to reveal as they are still in Savage.

Please,in my situation,would you have fought with 10 players against 70+?I doubt you would have wasted your time.
But you did good sticking to Savage,I mean,you were ready to back stabb Savage,back stabbed C*,hugged to win...You found your place in Savage,you deserve to be there haha.If jimmy wouldn't have left it would have been different.We would've had your help,right?As well as pelinjo and I believe there were 2 more but I can't remember their names unfortunately.But,you do what you gotta do to survive,jimmy left,you stick with Savage and then think you won fair.Please,if you were so good you'd fight us 1v1.

Did you make plans for world 26 to back stabb sweeney as well if things go wrong?Maybe he'll be gone like jimmy and you will stick to shadow in the end :D.Funny how you all had the balls to talk only after you hugged and back stabbed to win.Even in 26 you had to have your first conquer steff's village who then joined you as coplayer I guess.

all you got on me is that I quit.Can you trash talk about something else?I've got plenty about you hehe.
 

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Oh Dase you are just so wrong. Savage is the least dramatic, most active tribe I've ever been a member of. I have huge respect for the leadership.

Savage leadership were well aware of every mail passed between us. You're not revealing anything to anyone.

Why would we leave Savage to join a sinking Free, or a mass recruiting C*? Savage is a better and more reliable tribe than both, hence why we'll win.

I've been posting in the forums for months, you've only just been irritated enough to check me out. :)
 

DeletedUser

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Excuse after excuse, at least I had the most enemy conquers, more than you Dase. If I'm trash then I don't know what you are. Oh and it doesn't matter if they were small or big, they were the closest to me and I nobled them, they're enemy villages after all, that what counts right? Something is better than nothing.
 
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