Rank 1 tribe peoplez VS. Storm Family

[DeletedUser]

Lets make something absolutely clear here. When we left IDC (Reform or whatever crap they tried to name it) we had no idea about any discussions relating to any NAP or whatever. We left cause there was no one leading and we had no desire to lead it. The tribe fell apart because no one was leading. We left thinking that IDC would continue on, but had heard that someone wanted to disband the tribe. We started our new tribe. We invited the few we had worked with directly in the last couple of months who we knew were playing. Frankly, the reason our name is ISDC was because its the truth, I STILL DONT CARE. We hold #1 in ODA, I think that speaks to our activity. Hardly anyone else wanted to do their part, so we decided to go on our own (really how is what we are now any different that what we were before?). We were part of a big tribe of deadweight.

IDC was a good tribe at one point, when all the players were active. As players left, that was all there was to it. A tribe of 60 (or 3 tribes of however many) will beat a tribe of 10 actives any day of the week.

We will keep playing at our discretion, and I have no doubt that at some point, another tribe or a group of players will decide to come for us, the truth is ISDC. I look forward to the retirement of my playing days.

How interesting.

You see, I was being sat while most of this stuff went down, so I apologize for any misrepresentations I may have created.

 

[DeletedUser]

Smash, you guys may have beaten yourself a bit, but like menace said, it is still an achievement. Although we did have some issues too, our better members helped to carry the load and get the other members involved, and we did beat you, and you can't deny that.

Btw- I don't know who the 2 good members were, but for one, we have more than 2 good members, and if you were talking about Islah, you kicked him from IDC, so it is your fault he was fighting against you.

 

[DeletedUser173]

Funny how no one cares about this war until it's over, then suddenly everyone uses the externals

I'm being told smash didn't try very hard on my behalf, that's not something I want to believe.

The Yontash account was one of the most heated discussions in the negotiations. Originally you were the 8th member that I asked storm to stop attacking. No matter what I asked, they absolutely refused, and they still have given no good reason as to why that is.

Spoiler: yont discussion

you also never answered why you want yont gone
[7/5/2012 10:03:45 PM] themenace-6: Offering to give us villages we are already going to get isn't much to me.
[7/5/2012 10:03:59 PM] themenace-6: I don't want him gone. I want to take his villas.
[7/5/2012 10:04:01 PM] themenace-6: =P
[7/5/2012 10:04:54 PM] T4nkz: I want him gone. because i hate him
[7/5/2012 10:04:59 PM] Will (Who Am): because?
[7/5/2012 10:05:11 PM] T4nkz: THats' my reason why
[7/5/2012 10:05:11 PM] themenace-6: Why does it matter?
[7/5/2012 10:05:14 PM] T4nkz: I hate him.
[7/5/2012 10:05:16 PM] T4nkz: so
[7/5/2012 10:05:19 PM] T4nkz: i must kill him
[7/5/2012 10:05:28 PM] Will (Who Am): because if I had a reason, i would be more inclined to let you have his villages
[7/5/2012 10:05:28 PM] T4nkz: in real life.
[7/5/2012 10:05:49 PM] Will (Who Am): if he did something to you, if you dont like his se cluster, those are reasons i could understand
[7/5/2012 10:05:54 PM] themenace-6: Oh, well...he is going to fight back.
[7/5/2012 10:06:04 PM] themenace-6: You can't give those to us.
[7/5/2012 10:06:04 PM] T4nkz: with an sv98 16x scope and bipod
[7/5/2012 10:06:22 PM] themenace-6: Or, he is going to try, anyway.
[7/5/2012 10:06:33 PM] themenace-6: He'll have a chance once we pus him back to the west again.
[7/5/2012 10:06:47 PM] themenace-6: But he spread himself out, nobled too fast for his own good.
[7/5/2012 10:06:53 PM] Will (Who Am): why not simply let him keep his west cluster?
[7/5/2012 10:06:55 PM] themenace-6: Maybe he thought you guys would support him, too.
[7/5/2012 10:08:11 PM] Will (Who Am): if you cannot give me a reason as to one of the top 10 people in this tribe i would like safe should be rimmd, then i cannot simply let you noble him out
[7/5/2012 10:08:19 PM] Will (Who Am): "i hate him" is no reason

Also, no matter how you look at it, at the very most, we had 10-11 people that were doing anything in the war. There were long term support requests to some members which went unanswered for days and the players, such as fire fighter, for example, only recieved support to 1 village, despite the request which was sent 3 days before he had any incoming.

 

[DeletedUser173]

sorry for double post, just wanted to address this one...

Dude,STORM won this war.
Now I'm not saying that IDC sucked,but they were defeated.Not because of rl or because of being bored,but because some tribe was better than them.
Maybe us7 or any other us world will give them the opportunity to rise again,but on world 6 they have lost.

The end.

I had the sit for fire fighter's account when he was receiving incoming from storm, and I must say, it was shockingly easy to defend against them. Fire fighter had 18 villages at time of attacks, no full nukes, and 2 def villages in allied villages. i believe 5-6 villages were offense. That means, it only took 5-6 full def and some half built ones to stack/snipe over a dozen trains that were sent. While some storm members DID send 150 ms trains consistently, I was disgusted at just how many 1 min trains I saw. At one point there was a 2 minute train. That's not exactly what I consider skill on Storm's part.

 

[DeletedUser]

Hey Who Am. Quick question that you seem to have dodged. Why was I not on the list to save? You told me before I left you would sit and take care of my account.

Just wondering.

 

[DeletedUser]

If you think your tribe had anything to do with winning, you don't know how this game works. You had 2 good players. Even with the severe inactivity we had, and my computer access problems, we still had 10 players that could and will outplay your tribe for the remainder of the world.

This doesn't make any sense. If we had two good players, and you had ten...why didn't you win?

 

[Dase]

If you think your tribe had anything to do with winning, you don't know how this game works. You had 2 good players. Even with the severe inactivity we had, and my computer access problems, we still had 10 players that could and will outplay your tribe for the remainder of the world.

The fact that we had players that hadn't nobled more than a few villages in months, yet still outgrew the majority of your tribe shows the only way you would ever win on this world, or any other, is through the enemy beating itself.

So the fact that you can outplay us it's the reason why you asked for a 30 days nap?
To me it seems more like you guys are waiting to see if anyone else in the world can push storm out of your way,or at least help you to do it.But I'm afraid nobody will do that.



@Who Am:
I am aware that some don't send good trains,don't know to snipe,etc.
But,I said STORM was better than IDC.Not player x.
STORM,as a tribe,defeated IDC.
But IDC lost like a player.They had no real tribe.They were more like a group.Each other waiting to backstabb somebody.Just a few were not like that.

 

[DeletedUser1446]

Wait! Time for a NAP? For what? I´m confused... Now this is worst than hugging This is sleeping together!!!!!!

 

[DeletedUser3141]

Funny how no one cares about this war until it's over, then suddenly everyone uses the externals



The Yontash account was one of the most heated discussions in the negotiations. Originally you were the 8th member that I asked storm to stop attacking. No matter what I asked, they absolutely refused, and they still have given no good reason as to why that is.

Spoiler: yont discussion

you also never answered why you want yont gone
[7/5/2012 10:03:45 PM] themenace-6: Offering to give us villages we are already going to get isn't much to me.
[7/5/2012 10:03:59 PM] themenace-6: I don't want him gone. I want to take his villas.
[7/5/2012 10:04:01 PM] themenace-6: =P
[7/5/2012 10:04:54 PM] T4nkz: I want him gone. because i hate him
[7/5/2012 10:04:59 PM] Will (Who Am): because?
[7/5/2012 10:05:11 PM] T4nkz: THats' my reason why
[7/5/2012 10:05:11 PM] themenace-6: Why does it matter?
[7/5/2012 10:05:14 PM] T4nkz: I hate him.
[7/5/2012 10:05:16 PM] T4nkz: so
[7/5/2012 10:05:19 PM] T4nkz: i must kill him
[7/5/2012 10:05:28 PM] Will (Who Am): because if I had a reason, i would be more inclined to let you have his villages
[7/5/2012 10:05:28 PM] T4nkz: in real life.
[7/5/2012 10:05:49 PM] Will (Who Am): if he did something to you, if you dont like his se cluster, those are reasons i could understand
[7/5/2012 10:05:54 PM] themenace-6: Oh, well...he is going to fight back.
[7/5/2012 10:06:04 PM] themenace-6: You can't give those to us.
[7/5/2012 10:06:04 PM] T4nkz: with an sv98 16x scope and bipod
[7/5/2012 10:06:22 PM] themenace-6: Or, he is going to try, anyway.
[7/5/2012 10:06:33 PM] themenace-6: He'll have a chance once we pus him back to the west again.
[7/5/2012 10:06:47 PM] themenace-6: But he spread himself out, nobled too fast for his own good.
[7/5/2012 10:06:53 PM] Will (Who Am): why not simply let him keep his west cluster?
[7/5/2012 10:06:55 PM] themenace-6: Maybe he thought you guys would support him, too.
[7/5/2012 10:08:11 PM] Will (Who Am): if you cannot give me a reason as to one of the top 10 people in this tribe i would like safe should be rimmd, then i cannot simply let you noble him out
[7/5/2012 10:08:19 PM] Will (Who Am): "i hate him" is no reason

Also, no matter how you look at it, at the very most, we had 10-11 people that were doing anything in the war. There were long term support requests to some members which went unanswered for days and the players, such as fire fighter, for example, only recieved support to 1 village, despite the request which was sent 3 days before he had any incoming.

Thank you.
That is evidence supporting my assertions about a vendetta. That content is also the main reason I assumed any application to Storm would be pointless.

That assertion that I 'would have a chance when the eastern villages were gone' was also hinted to me. As a result not knowing you had already tried I suggested the option of simply gifting the K55 vills in exchange for that same 30 day nap. Since it was rejected I concluded thatthey didn't really mean that. This was subsequently confirmed by one of their members when I called them on it.

Interestingly Tankz was by the time of your negotiations well aware that the Yontash account had changed hands and even said to me 'now I don't even want to fight you'. I don't know the reason for his antipathy, he refused to explain although I do recall that he was happy to ignore an official nap (not involving IDC) in order to attack one of those players before they joined Yontash.

Until this point I had no issues with Storm (apart from one member since I respect naps, personal or tribe). They were just an opposing team that I could fight with the greatest goodwill, win or lose. I still feel that way about some of their members who have been in touch with me.

Earlier on they did agood job. Their was some impressive teamwork and alevel of involvement that was sadly missing in IDC. More recently it's pretty appalling. I'm lisng more due to being worn down and unable to be online all the time than to the skill of the attacks.

Btw yes I'm sure it will suit others for it to be believed that you only worked on behalf of a few friends. I think you took as many as you could manage. The strong hint that others could apply to Storm is also an indication. The strongest were removed as a threat for 30 days while they ate or recruited the others according to their perceived value. It also allowed them to completley isolate me. It wasan effective strategy. Politically I have to applaud it.

 

[DeletedUser173]

Hey Who Am. Quick question that you seem to have dodged. Why was I not on the list to save? You told me before I left you would sit and take care of my account.

Just wondering.

I was unsure whether or not you would even be staying in the world since you had left for one of the most critical turning points in the war. I was trying to limit the number of people that would be untouched by storm as much as possible without making unreasonable terms (since we were already losing the war). I didn't want to lose someone else that might have wanted to stay in the world in order to keep someone who I wasn't sure even cared anymore, which is why I was unable to include you.

Naturally, I would have liked more members to have been "safe" but many of our members lost some of my respect when they didn't even make an attempt to participate in our counter attack on storm. The main thing I looked at when going over which members to keep was who was actively sending support to our frontliners and who had a noticable ODA increase on the scheduled op landing day.

 

[DeletedUser]

See, but you were sitting me. Any shortfalls in that OP were not my fault. I also had about 80% of my defense in other people's villages for quite a while, but it was never really attacked, and they didnt send it back so I could send it somewhere else.

But its whatever. No hard feelings. I'll still spam you on skype and bug the hell outta you haha