A History Of US2

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well,im glad at least some one(xlxhx and Dase) came up and didnt make me feel like im the only one standing up to SPERG trashes and revealing the truth.
@ xlxhx: who is the moody cow you talked about? is it Sara? :D .thats the only fitting person i can find for that :p


I don't think SPERG was hiding the truth.Everyone knew that OFF merged with SPERG as some NXS players did too.

And Milad.Calling Sara a "moody cow" or however you called her is childish.This is just a game.
Even if Sara had a dirty style of playing(maybe the fact that sargeshaun nobled only villages that were claimed by Dragoon says something to you Sara), you can't just call her the way you did.

On the other side,SPERG isn't as good as everyone thinks.And this war is far from over.There will be a long way ahead of us.

And if I think better,SPERG is hidding what Noise acomplished.Even if in the end he failed(they failed).7 against 1 in that early stage is too much for everyone.

And yeah,Aliquisher was a internal nobler.But did any of you mention what you guys nobled internally?
VonWagner has now Slayde Demise as co and he merged slayde's acc into his.This is just an example.

In the end I'd like to say
Good luck SPERG with you're war against...
 
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I don't think SPERG was hiding the truth.Everyone knew that OFF merged with SPERG as some NXS players did too.

And Milad.Calling Sara a "moody cow" or however you called her is childish.This is just a game.
Even if Sara had a dirty style of playing(maybe the fact that sargeshaun nobled only villages that were claimed by Dragoon says something to you Sara), you can't just call her the way you did.

On the other side,SPERG isn't as good as everyone thinks.And this war is far from over.There will be a long way ahead of us.

And if I think better,SPERG is hidding what Noise acomplished.Even if in the end he failed(they failed).7 against 1 in that early stage is too much for everyone.

And yeah,Aliquisher was a internal nobler.But did any of you mention what you guys nobled internally?
VonWagner has now Slayde Demise as co and he merged slayde's acc into his.This is just an example.

In the end I'd like to say
Good luck SPERG with you're war against...

Milad didn't call Sarah that. It was xlxhx. Next time try to understand what you're reading...
 

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I don't think SPERG was hiding the truth.Everyone knew that OFF merged with SPERG as some NXS players did too.

On the other side,SPERG isn't as good as everyone thinks.And this war is far from over.There will be a long way ahead of us.
This explains why you wanted to re-join.
And if I think better,SPERG is hidding what Noise acomplished.Even if in the end he failed(they failed).7 against 1 in that early stage is too much for everyone.
What exactly did he accomplish? ps -- I haven't seen evidence of him fighting 7 against 1, either. a 210k ODT means nothing.
And yeah,Aliquisher was a internal nobler.But did any of you mention what you guys nobled internally?
VonWagner has now Slayde Demise as co and he merged slayde's acc into his.This is just an example.

In the end I'd like to say
Good luck SPERG with you're war against...
Really? Slayde is a co? That's news to me. Thanks for the heads up, though. It's good to know I have a co, rather than the worthless Wagz who shows up once every few months to post on the forums.

But since you called it into light, let's think about this for a moment.

VonWagner:
217 conquers.
Self conquers - 34
Total unique conquers: 183
Barb conquers - 38
SPERG conquers (but not self conquers) - 14
Total barb/internal conquers: 52
barb/internal Percent of total: 28.4%
Internal percent of total: 7.6%

Aliquisher:
167 conquers.
Self conquers - 7
Total unique conquers: 160
Barb conquers - 13
Internal conquers (but not self conquers) - 93
Total barb/internal conquers: 106
barb/internal Percent of total: 66.2%
Internal percent of total: 58.1%

Suffice it to say if you look at Sara, you'll see the same thing.
 

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It is extremely difficult not to reply to a lot of these posts... Some people really don't think much :|

The second part of the post above is pretty good, the part talking about Milad/Noise is pretty badly thought out.
 

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It is extremely difficult not to reply to a lot of these posts... Some people really don't think much :|

The second part of the post above is pretty good, the part talking about Milad/Noise is pretty badly thought out.

What, you want the math behind it? I'll admit I was in the process of quitting when the Noise stuff went down / the OFF! merger, but at the time the top players had around 5-7 towns, and multiple full nukes.

A 210k ODD is indicative of having defeated roughly 4-5 full nukes defending, if you assume (incorrectly) that he had no ODA. It also assumes he hadn't acquired any ODT before the supposed conflict began, which would again be false.

For the sake of argument, a nuke of 6k axes and 2.5k LC with 220 rams would give you 58.2k ODD. In fact, his ODD was (is) a massive 64.5k. That's not indicative of playing 7 v 1.

The history on tw-stats doesn't go back far enough to really give a better picture; his towns were nobled by 4 players, who conveniently were the four near him. It's hard to tell exactly when he quit/stopped playing. So, who were the 7 players who ganged up on him?

Also, Noise, weren't you the one that had (multiple) unchurched towns? That probably would have contributed to it. Or was that szfz? I get you confused.

Also, to clear up some other random pieces of misinformation:
SPERG won the conflicts against both NXS and OFF! -- tw-stats can verify that, if you just go and look at conquers in either direction, prior to either of them disbanding.
 

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What, you want the math behind it? I'll admit I was in the process of quitting when the Noise stuff went down / the OFF! merger, but at the time the top players had around 5-7 towns, and multiple full nukes.

A 210k ODD is indicative of having defeated roughly 4-5 full nukes defending, if you assume (incorrectly) that he had no ODA. It also assumes he hadn't acquired any ODT before the supposed conflict began, which would again be false.

For the sake of argument, a nuke of 6k axes and 2.5k LC with 220 rams would give you 58.2k ODD. In fact, his ODD was (is) a massive 64.5k. That's not indicative of playing 7 v 1.

The history on tw-stats doesn't go back far enough to really give a better picture; his towns were nobled by 4 players, who conveniently were the four near him. It's hard to tell exactly when he quit/stopped playing. So, who were the 7 players who ganged up on him?

Also, Noise, weren't you the one that had (multiple) unchurched towns? That probably would have contributed to it. Or was that szfz? I get you confused.

Also, to clear up some other random pieces of misinformation:
SPERG won the conflicts against both NXS and OFF! -- tw-stats can verify that, if you just go and look at conquers in either direction, prior to either of them disbanding.


I'm bored, so I may as well reply to this.

I went on twstats and counted 5 OFF!/SPERG players taking villages off Noise within the 10 day period that he was under attack. So, saying four players is wrong. If those 5 were the only players attacking Noise, then they'd be stupid. There would also be incoming tribal support for the op against Noise, including fakes, support, and clears.

I'm assuming that Noise ran low defense, and being somewhat early into the game (barely 2 months after Noise nobled his first village), I would assume that he had maybe 2 full nukes and a few half nukes. (I would assume that he ran low defense, as many players who depend on sniping do this at start-up, and often prefer a combination of sniping/backtiming to the timeless classic defense of stacking.) So 210k ODT in a world where all of his conquers were below 5k makes sense.
 

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I'm bored, so I may as well reply to this.

I went on twstats and counted 5 OFF!/SPERG players taking villages off Noise within the 10 day period that he was under attack. So, saying four players is wrong. If those 5 were the only players attacking Noise, then they'd be stupid. There would also be incoming tribal support for the op against Noise, including fakes, support, and clears.

I'm assuming that Noise ran low defense, and being somewhat early into the game (barely 2 months after Noise nobled his first village), I would assume that he had maybe 2 full nukes and a few half nukes. (I would assume that he ran low defense, as many players who depend on sniping do this at start-up, and often prefer a combination of sniping/backtiming to the timeless classic defense of stacking.) So 210k ODT in a world where all of his conquers were below 5k makes sense.

I wasn't counting the whale nobles because Noise had quit by then.

Yes, I'm sure he was running high off rather than def. However, there's no way to determine when he gained his ODA, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't at this time.

The 210k ODT doesn't prove anything -- that's my point.

I can't speak for what OFF! did, since it was pre-merge, but Noise had largely quit by the time the merge occurred, so we didn't need to do anything.

You're also assuming that Noise didn't get any support from his own tribe. There's no way to know whether or not his tribe supported (as true support), or supported by attacking the OFF!/Sperg members.
 

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What, you want the math behind it? I'll admit I was in the process of quitting when the Noise stuff went down / the OFF! merger, but at the time the top players had around 5-7 towns, and multiple full nukes.

A 210k ODD is indicative of having defeated roughly 4-5 full nukes defending, if you assume (incorrectly) that he had no ODA. It also assumes he hadn't acquired any ODT before the supposed conflict began, which would again be false.

For the sake of argument, a nuke of 6k axes and 2.5k LC with 220 rams would give you 58.2k ODD. In fact, his ODD was (is) a massive 64.5k. That's not indicative of playing 7 v 1.

The history on tw-stats doesn't go back far enough to really give a better picture; his towns were nobled by 4 players, who conveniently were the four near him. It's hard to tell exactly when he quit/stopped playing. So, who were the 7 players who ganged up on him?

Also, Noise, weren't you the one that had (multiple) unchurched towns? That probably would have contributed to it. Or was that szfz? I get you confused.

Also, to clear up some other random pieces of misinformation:
SPERG won the conflicts against both NXS and OFF! -- tw-stats can verify that, if you just go and look at conquers in either direction, prior to either of them disbanding.
I already showed the reports of the ones who attacked me before,they were 8. if i remember well they were:
Lexaurian
Kill2(noble train)
Hicut
Tom
Rixter(noble train)
Awz(noble train)
pitt(noble train)
and,one more i dont know why i cant remember

and they had intel on my account too.and i didnt have much deff since i didnt think i would need it(like getting gangbanged)
and rank 2 ODt was 100k while mine was 240.so....

ps: i remembered .it was Raj terror,he first almost killed his nuke while clearing deffenses in my main village,then he rebuilt and tried to noble me while i sniped and then backtimed.then he had to leave.

Dahr sure kept an eye on me on w2.im surprised by his intel on Noise :D .
and zauper.feel free to ask any of those who i mentioned if they attacked me since that seems to be the only way to prove.
 
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Milad didn't call Sarah that. It was xlxhx. Next time try to understand what you're reading...


xlxhx didn't mean necesarely Sara.But Milad said that Sara is the only one that fitts the description.

Next time,try to understand what you're reading ...
 

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The history of .us changed today.As I think I said before I wanted to merge no Idea into Jpack*.Finally,after 2 days of talking with the leaders,it's happening.I talked with matratzensportler and the other guys there and you'll see the result soon

The 2 rank 2 and rank 3 tribes are merging.Also,if things work out good Cream will be the next destroyed tribe as they're attacking one of our members.

So,today the top 20 changes!A new tribe is rising to the rank 1 place.


And for Sara and SPERG:
Rememver that once you're rank 1 there's only one way you can go...And it's not the way you guys would like(to rank 0).
 

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Noise spread himself out and refused to build churches to cover his towns, arguing with Rixter that churches can be made up for by extra tribe support. True story.

What's with all the smack talking Dase?

Wolfmaster today at 02:26
Can I recieve a invite from SPERG :D?Seems that the new formed tribes are spread everywhere,so joining SPERG would be the best idea for me.I completely understand if you say no :)

btw it's really unfortunately that JPack's leaders are making all of these decisions without listening to their members. There's a decent group of JPack dudes really unhappy with these big plans and internal struggles only weaken what could have been an otherwise stellar tribe.
 

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Noise spread himself out and refused to build churches to cover his towns, arguing with Rixter that churches can be made up for by extra tribe support. True story.

What's with all the smack talking Dase?

Wolfmaster today at 02:26
Can I recieve a invite from SPERG :D?Seems that the new formed tribes are spread everywhere,so joining SPERG would be the best idea for me.I completely understand if you say no :)

btw it's really unfortunately that JPack's leaders are making all of these decisions without listening to their members. There's a decent group of JPack dudes really unhappy with these big plans and internal struggles only weaken what could have been an otherwise stellar tribe.
wrong. Rixt and others thought since this is church world they have the right to tell me what to do. they expected me to noble the 500 pts barbs in my church rather than nobling the villages i cleared(and lost all my nuke and nobles on) like relic's . you can always have a cluster later when barbs are at higher points.besides if waited 30 more hours before attacking me,i wouldve had 100% of my villages religious(nobled a stable bonus right in the middle of my villages and needed to upgrade church to lvl 2) .
why are we still talking about me? lets hear about the wars. and sara its not nice to show such mails in public :/
 

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xlxhx didn't mean necesarely Sara.But Milad said that Sara is the only one that fitts the description.

Next time,try to understand what you're reading ...

Milad did say she's the one who fits the description, although xlxhx said he totally was reffering to someone and saying that was what her tribemates called her, so indirectly he totally called her a "moody cow", Milad just confirmed it.

About the merge I really expect that it doesn't go so wrong as the AsAs and [-,-] merge. Withouth Aliquisher you have more probabilities of success, anyway...
 

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Noise spread himself out and refused to build churches to cover his towns, arguing with Rixter that churches can be made up for by extra tribe support. True story.

What's with all the smack talking Dase?

Wolfmaster today at 02:26
Can I recieve a invite from SPERG :D?Seems that the new formed tribes are spread everywhere,so joining SPERG would be the best idea for me.I completely understand if you say no :)

btw it's really unfortunately that JPack's leaders are making all of these decisions without listening to their members. There's a decent group of JPack dudes really unhappy with these big plans and internal struggles only weaken what could have been an otherwise stellar tribe.



Yeah I wanted to join SPERG..
Uhm...One of my friends went to sperg(Hower) and I wanted to come too.
Also,there's no struggle or anything like this.And the leaders of Jpack* listen to the members.
Are you mad that after this merge SPERG's supremacy will end?

I don't know why are you thinking I'm like Milad that surely hates you.Actually,I'd like a war with SPERG.Too bad it's too late to rebuild AsAs.Than we'd have the war we wanted.

But Asas(or some 40% of it) is now in JPack* maybe this war will come involving a new name.The name of a tribe that many think it's a fail,Jpack*.


And just out of curiosity.Except GODS and Cream,is there any tribe that doesn't have a war with SPERG?:D
 

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I already showed the reports of the ones who attacked me before,they were 8. if i remember well they were:
Lexaurian
Kill2(noble train)
Hicut - your tribemate in mental
Tom - doesn't exist (TOMM? The jpack guy on the rim?)
Rixter(noble train)
Awz(noble train)
pitt(noble train)
and,one more i dont know why i cant remember
ps: i remembered .it was Raj terror,he first almost killed his nuke while clearing deffenses in my main village,then he rebuilt and tried to noble me while i sniped and then backtimed.then he had to leave.
And you got absolutely no support from your tribe?

I'll say it again: you weren't using churches in a church world. When your towns aren't churched, you don't really have a reason to complain about getting wiped.
and they had intel on my account too.and i didnt have much deff since i didnt think i would need it(like getting gangbanged)
and rank 2 ODt was 100k while mine was 240.so....
Derp. Does this mean I've been getting gangbanged? My ODT (12.7M) is roughly twice the next active player (6.5M). I generally don't count Aliquisher/Silence since they're no longer active and their ODT spiked after they quit. I should probably ragequit too, right?
Dahr sure kept an eye on me on w2.im surprised by his intel on Noise :D .
and zauper.feel free to ask any of those who i mentioned if they attacked me since that seems to be the only way to prove.
Reports would work too, but wouldn't prove that you didn't have any support.

You still didn't have all your towns churched. In fact, I do vaguely recall you making a thread where you raged at OFF for attacking you, because they knew where you weren't churched.

The history of .us changed today.As I think I said before I wanted to merge no Idea into Jpack*.Finally,after 2 days of talking with the leaders,it's happening.I talked with matratzensportler and the other guys there and you'll see the result soon

The 2 rank 2 and rank 3 tribes are merging.Also,if things work out good Cream will be the next destroyed tribe as they're attacking one of our members.

So,today the top 20 changes!A new tribe is rising to the rank 1 place.
Really? We're still twice your size and you have more members. But I'm sure absorbing another 3M in players will make you pass us. Right?

Afterall, merges have worked so well for beating us in the past.
 

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And you got absolutely no support from your tribe?

I'll say it again: you weren't using churches in a church world. When your towns aren't churched, you don't really have a reason to complain about getting wiped.

Derp. Does this mean I've been getting gangbanged? My ODT (12.7M) is roughly twice the next active player (6.5M). I generally don't count Aliquisher/Silence since they're no longer active and their ODT spiked after they quit. I should probably ragequit too, right?

Reports would work too, but wouldn't prove that you didn't have any support.

You still didn't have all your towns churched. In fact, I do vaguely recall you making a thread where you raged at OFF for attacking you, because they knew where you weren't churched.


Really? We're still twice your size and you have more members. But I'm sure absorbing another 3M in players will make you pass us. Right?

Afterall, merges have worked so well for beating us in the past.
Tom was the leader of OFF you nubcake.
I got absolutely no support until like lost 5 villages.Mental were pretty far away from us.i didnt even plan to join them.but seems like co players joined them.couldve worked if they would help sooner.
Hicut moved to mental AFTER he wasted his nuke on my villagees.
You cant deny that i had most troops on the world.and that ODT was when 2 villages(one was my favorite which awz first nobled) were lost without the troops being used.so it wouldve been like 400 K
I had 5 villages out of my 8 villages religious . well unlike you i didnt get gifted loads of villages from the startup.so i had to look for good villages to noble

"You still didn't have all your towns churched"
isnt that what i said?

there is no point arguing with a retard who acts like he actually has brains.but who said i was looking for a point? Im just having my fun XD
 
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Tom was the leader of OFF you nubcake.
I got absolutely no support until like lost 5 villages.Mental were pretty far away from us.i didnt even plan to join them.but seems like co players joined them.couldve worked if they would help sooner.
Hicut moved to mental AFTER he wasted his nuke on my villagees.
You cant deny that i had most troops on the world.and that ODT was when 2 villages(one was my favorite which awz first nobled) were lost without the troops being used.so it wouldve been like 400 K
I had 5 villages out of my 8 villages religious . well unlike you i didnt get gifted loads of villages from the startup.so i had to look for good villages to noble

"You still didn't have all your towns churched"
isnt that what i said?

there is no point arguing with a retard who acts like he actually has brains.but who said i was looking for a point? Im just having my fun XD

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