60% is a fair bit more, eg, 10k player villages, 5% of that is 500. Honestly, I think the reason many didn't join Bubble was due to them wanting to ride through an easy win, however some were just loyal to VA.You moan about a 55% win condition but you play on w8 with a 60% win condition? Really?!? Cmon you realised that no1 wanted to join you due to your bad tactics and lack of following. If the return wasnt there many more would have joined. The fact that VA is LOYAL to its leadership is outstanding. Face it the return you failed so please no more silly excuses
Funny how things work out.