Butter vs Campin - War

[DeletedUser]

:noblemen: Butter vs Campin :noblemen:

The tribe Newed declared war on tribe Butter Side Up!

VS

Spoiler: Map

+- 2 weeks later:

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[DeletedUser]

Questions or comments can you send in PM !

 

[DeletedUser]

Should be fun, good luck to both sides

 

[DeletedUser]

If this stays 1vs1 then it will be an easy win for campin that I am sure. Only thing is the amount of hugging that butter are doing with decept, TIP, TAP, TOP and trying with the no idea family I dont see this being a fair fight. I know that both sides have good players but the attacks that TT received from butter were not timed, no support after them so I am unsure of their abilities.

None the less it should be a good war. Its about time someone stepped up to the plate and decided to take action on all the hugging that is going on so I am pleased carsi has.

Good luck to both sides

UPDATE just in. Butter has invited decept to the war and they accepted. Proof again that butter cant beat a tribe on their own. Shame

 

[Dase]

Didn't you quit or something? Why do you always talk about butter? It's our problem how we play. Get over the fact that you lost please.

 

[DeletedUser188]

If this stays 1vs1 then it will be an easy win for campin that I am sure. Only thing is the amount of hugging that butter are doing with decept, TIP, TAP, TOP and trying with the no idea family I dont see this being a fair fight. I know that both sides have good players but the attacks that TT received from butter were not timed, no support after them so I am unsure of their abilities.

It wasnt needed to time deff behind our nobles all you guys were doing was suiciding your troops on us(well it was you messing with acc sits mostly)

 

[DeletedUser]

Didn't you quit or something? Why do you always talk about butter? It's our problem how we play. Get over the fact that you lost please.

Yeah I quit playing seriously on w9. I just stay in w11 to annoy butter as I know it gets under the moloco's accounts skin so much
w11 has been a farce since the beginning when all the hugging took place. I am sure that the externals are still a place where players can speak no matter how active they are am I right Dase?

Yes TT did end up deciding they didnt want to play in w11 anymore so as you want to put it yes we lost as a tribe. A lot have quit the world due to the poor standards and play that is used.

Anyone is allowed to speak about anything in the externals as long as it is on topic and I am. I am just waiting for them to try and invite, TIP, TAP and TOP, No Idea and the other many allies they have on the world to the war because they are not strong enough to fight a war on their own without bringing in numbers. Everyone knows w11 has been destroyed and is the biggest hugging world EVER to grace the .us servers.

Also Dase if you read all my post it wasnt just about butter. I also know Moloco has wrote something but he isnt worth me clicking the view post because most of what he speaks is all false info but just ask him why he is trying to recruit uber from campin. Not only can he not fight a fair fight against a tribe the same size as his own but he tries to recruit the competition.

But also you are right in one way dase.... It is your problem that butters ways have single handedly killed off any interest there was in w11 and have turned a world with great settings into a circus show.

And 1 last thing Dase. Where are you in w11? Dase lost a long time ago but yet I survive and I hardly log into my JAT account now. Maybe twice a day if I am lucky to answer mails and build

 

[DeletedUser]

Translation:

"Lol me and my two tribes lost a war against three players so now I'm just going to hang around here and criticize others hugging mentality. In fact, I might as well derail a thread about a war, because everyone should be as bitter as me, right? Please look at me guys, I'm still relevant right?"

 

[Dase]

After my acc was lost I started on the rim on miheteus. I'm still here.

TT didn't decide to quit. THEY WERE DEFEATED. BUTTER DEFEATED THEM. Is it so hard to understand? You failed. Butter won with some help, true but when butter was alone against the coalition nobody complained. If butter huggs it's but, if you do, it's good.

Damn dude, just accept you were defeated and move on. Yes, you can comment here but stop saying lies. We all know the truth so you are only making a fool of yourself when you keep saying you decided to quit.

 

[DeletedUser]

So Dase you were done and dosted a long time ago yet I am still here

Thank you for admitting finally that butter alone did not defeat TT, butter had help. You are the first player of butter to admit that. Even though joffess still thinks it was just 3 members it wasnt. It was a 2 sided battle where TT were fighting decept and butter. SO thank you for clearing that up. Respect for that!!
It was sure that we wouldnt survive that. I have already said that TT was beaten if you read what I wrote.....

'Yes TT did end up deciding they didnt want to play in w11 anymore so as you want to put it yes we lost as a tribe.'

I didnt join in the coalition and if you ask moloco when he first cried out for help from TT I told him I wasnt getting involved as I dont like gang banging. The thing that annoys me is you guys in butter were gangbanged and you moaned like hell about it but yet you have now done it twice now. Once with evil with your collection of tribes against evil and now with campin.

It isnt your fault it is just the way that TW has gone now. Gone are the days that wars were fought properly and not with 3v1 or 2v1.

Nothing I write is lies. It maybe to you but there is always 2 sides to every story so I am explaining mine. We did decide to quit because there is no point in playing a world seriously when the world is known for hugging. Look at the many players that have left that were really skilled at the game. Doesnt that tell you something? w11 is a dead world now. Only the huggers left.

Now that is cleared up and you have finally admitted butter defeated TT but only with help I am happy with that. You admitted that and I have already stated TT lost. Its a game it happens.

Now can we get back on track about the BUTTER, DECEPT vs CAMPIN war please?

 

[DeletedUser3214]

This thread is about "Butter vs Campin - War" so I'm going to post about the.... Butter vs Campin War!

Side 1:
Tribes: Butter
Side 2:
Tribes: Campin
Players: Rebs Sarge

Timeframe: Last 48 hours

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 8
Side 2: 3
Difference: 5

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 60,744
Side 2: 22,949
Difference: 37,795

Small conquers for first day (relative to size of accounts is decent though), but a lot of offense and defense has taken place. About equal stats for ODA/ODD, higher ODD for Campin than Butter's ODA but Butter has had more conquers. All in all it is seemingly equal right now, though it is hard to tell at the beginning of a war. Interestingly, a player in Campin was dismissed after being heavily attacked by Butter, I wonder at the circumstances surrounding this (seems like rigging stats to me?). Will wait to see how teamwork follows through for both sides in the coming days/weeks.

 

[DeletedUser]

Finally a war. Any top 20 tribes taking the 'risk' and joining Campin?

 

[DeletedUser]

Finally a war. Any top 20 tribes taking the 'risk' and joining Campin?

I doubt it. Most of them have a relation with butter. TIP TAP and TOP are just sat there doing nothing and have been for a while. They are penned in and will be next if they dont wake up.

Butter are allied with No Idea family and decept along with TIP TAP and TOP.

Campin are warring CAM, CAM2, Decept and Butter. Campin seem to be the only tribe that has the balls to stand up to the hugging

 

[DeletedUser3214]

I believe the reasons behind a war that involves multiple tribes has more to do with the fact that people realize Campin was created under the presence of treachery and deceit (ie MoH duke Thunder being nobled by his own members, ELE members being poached while Campin simultaneously nobled the other ones they did not want to invite, sending defense to the enemies (Evil) of their NAP'ed tribe (butter)). Other tribes understand that such actions, mainly the last one, are not acceptable terms of behavior. To be frank, Campin declared on Butter and Butter only, yet there are many other tribes who share our sentiment that Campin has had some shady actions that prevent tribes from wanting to be friendly to them (if they are friendly, who knows if they will be the next tribe to be backstabbed/betrayed?). After all, I was friendly to my neighbor and that got me opped after we agreed on a PA (similar circumstances to allude to).

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes most of the above is true. Butter did attack first and that is why campin declared. Its going to be an interesting war thats for sure. Once this war is over it will be interesting to see who actually steps up after it but for now I wait to see the results of this as I know there is movement behind the scenes that could make this a more fair fight. Only time will tell.

 

[DeletedUser]

Btw Elixir, those stats fail to take into consideration a few factors:

1) Defensive troops take far, far longer to build than offensive.
2) Troops in villages that were nobled disappear.
3) Villages that defended with nukes give very little oda.

Campin lost a lot more troops than the stats show, not to mention the troops they lost take weeks longer to rebuild.

4) The villages we lost were recaps. Essentially the score is +5 vills to Butter, 0 to Campin.

 

[DeletedUser4592]

@Elixir

We were in the process of negotiating a PA and the owner of the Bav account felt you were being disrespectful and decided to rather OP you. Yes i agree it was not ideal for you but there never was an arrangement set in place so please stop with this nonsense. I might understand this wrong but are you saying that Campin send support to evil?

Regardless of all this good luck to both tribes as it should be a good war regardless of butter apparently trying to set up a gang bang. (im saying apparently as i havnt been on this world for a while and im only commenting on what i read here).

 

[DeletedUser]

@Elixir

We were in the process of negotiating a PA and the owner of the Bav account felt you were being disrespectful and decided to rather OP you. Yes i agree it was not ideal for you but there never was an arrangement set in place so please stop with this nonsense. I might understand this wrong but are you saying that Campin send support to evil?

Regardless of all this good luck to both tribes as it should be a good war regardless of butter apparently trying to set up a gang bang. (im saying apparently as i havnt been on this world for a while and im only commenting on what i read here).

I think he meant to say that they supported members of ELEss, Deathbot007 I believe.

 

[DeletedUser1048]

@Elixir

We were in the process of negotiating a PA and the owner of the Bav account felt you were being disrespectful and decided to rather OP you. Yes i agree it was not ideal for you but there never was an arrangement set in place so please stop with this nonsense. I might understand this wrong but are you saying that Campin send support to evil?

Regardless of all this good luck to both tribes as it should be a good war regardless of butter apparently trying to set up a gang bang. (im saying apparently as i havnt been on this world for a while and im only commenting on what i read here).

I'm not sure while this is still being discussed but I've decided to put an end to it. I'm posting our discussions with you, Effectuating, and myself of a personal nap between the elixir and bavarianman2 accounts. Perhaps public opinion will open your eyes as to what constitutes "an arrangement".

[9/11/13 11:23:27 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: Abrie aka hipopapotamus added pk3rz-30 to this conversation[9/11/13 11:23:39 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: ntoombs
[9/11/13 11:23:43 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: this is my duke
[9/11/13 11:24:45 AM] ntoombs19: Effectuating Affliction?
[9/11/13 11:24:57 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: she is a very nice lady and would love to have a word with you
[9/11/13 11:25:22 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: brb
[9/11/13 11:25:32 AM] ntoombs19: is she here?
[9/11/13 11:28:23 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: oh shit i added wrong account
[9/11/13 11:28:36 AM] ntoombs19: lol
[9/11/13 11:28:36 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: my bad (facepalm)
[9/11/13 11:29:45 AM] ntoombs19: ntoombs19 added Duke of Evil to this conversation
[9/11/13 11:29:48 AM] ntoombs19: hey
[9/11/13 11:29:54 AM] Effectuating Affliction: How's it going?
[9/11/13 11:30:06 AM] ntoombs19: ntoombs19 has ejected pk3rz-30 from this conversation
[9/11/13 11:30:11 AM] ntoombs19: good
[9/11/13 11:30:28 AM] ntoombs19: just having a pleasant diplomatic conversation with abrie over here
[9/11/13 11:30:29 AM] Effectuating Affliction: why is he in here with us lol
[9/11/13 11:30:47 AM] ntoombs19:
[9/11/13 11:30:49 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Sweet. I've heard a lot about you
[9/11/13 11:30:58 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: cause im the boss (cool)
[9/11/13 11:31:03 AM] Effectuating Affliction: I've also heard you've considered joining us
[9/11/13 11:31:06 AM] ntoombs19: he added me to a group conversation with the wrong person
[9/11/13 11:31:06 AM] Effectuating Affliction: I don't mean you lol
[9/11/13 11:31:09 AM] ntoombs19: so i added you
[9/11/13 11:31:11 AM] Effectuating Affliction: oh lol
[9/11/13 11:31:35 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Anyway, from what I've heard about you, you seem like a good guy
[9/11/13 11:31:38 AM] ntoombs19: well i'd like to explain very clearly what my intentions are and what they aren't as far as evil is concerned
[9/11/13 11:31:40 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: im adumbass sometimes
[9/11/13 11:31:45 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: only rarely
[9/11/13 11:31:47 AM] Effectuating Affliction: On 12/09/13, at 2:31 AM, ntoombs19 wrote:
> well i'd like to explain very clearly what my intentions are and what they aren't as far as evil is concerned


Sure man.
[9/11/13 11:32:03 AM] ntoombs19: I am interested in joining you
[9/11/13 11:32:12 AM] ntoombs19: but I am loyal and I will not betray my friends
[9/11/13 11:32:19 AM] Effectuating Affliction: I understand that and respect it
[9/11/13 11:32:37 AM] ntoombs19: so it's not likely to see me in evil in the near future
[9/11/13 11:32:44 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Alright
[9/11/13 11:32:58 AM] ntoombs19: I don't know what will happen in the future
[9/11/13 11:33:11 AM] Effectuating Affliction: The thing we'd need to sort if you don't join us, is area.
[9/11/13 11:33:26 AM] ntoombs19: but if the situation ever does arise where I leave butter, Evil is the first place I would look.
[9/11/13 11:33:38 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Makes sense to me mate.
[9/11/13 11:34:12 AM] ntoombs19: yes abrie and i have been discussing territory
[9/11/13 11:34:39 AM] Effectuating Affliction: I think the best thing is to come to an agreement of some sort
[9/11/13 11:34:39 AM] ntoombs19: I had tried discussing it previously with bav but he did not seem very interested in my border proposal
[9/11/13 11:34:40 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: and i think we might have come to a fair compromise
[9/11/13 11:35:16 AM] ntoombs19: Abrie do you mind if i bring her up to speed?
[9/11/13 11:35:46 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: not at all she is a clever lady and might even have a suggestion or two
[9/11/13 11:36:12 AM] ntoombs19: this is the map i had shown to bav almost a week ago
[9/11/13 11:36:13 AM] ntoombs19: http://i.imgur.com/bXXHE2U.png
[9/11/13 11:36:26 AM] ntoombs19: the southern half was the disputed territory
[9/11/13 11:36:33 AM] ntoombs19: as there is a single 6k village located there
[9/11/13 11:36:45 AM] ntoombs19: bav was apparently interested in that village
[9/11/13 11:37:18 AM] ntoombs19: as he initially agreed to the proposal then changed his mined and offered a counterproposal for a straight line along their 3 village cluster
[9/11/13 11:37:54 AM] ntoombs19: I refused his proposal as I had been eyeing that village for quite some time and planned to take it in the near future
[9/11/13 11:38:07 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Yeah
[9/11/13 11:38:13 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Is this the barb?
[9/11/13 11:38:13 AM] ntoombs19: well that ended up happening except there was a crossnobeling on that village recently
[9/11/13 11:38:25 AM] ntoombs19: yes the barb. though it wasn't initially barb
[9/11/13 11:39:24 AM] ntoombs19: I had asked abrie how he'd like to proceed to midigate his losses and he proposed that I recap it and I agreed
[9/11/13 11:39:42 AM] ntoombs19: my first recap attempt was unsuccessful as it lowered the loyalty only to 6
[9/11/13 11:39:47 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Yeah
[9/11/13 11:39:49 AM] ntoombs19: my second attempt was killed
[9/11/13 11:40:18 AM] ntoombs19: abrie believes a sitter is to blame
[9/11/13 11:40:50 AM] Effectuating Affliction: So you thinking Abrie and bav repay you for the losses, and help you clear a new village or two, or give up the 6k ?
[9/11/13 11:41:06 AM] ntoombs19: or possibly bav not accepting our earlier agreement as ligament decided to take matters into his own hands. I'm not sure that's been worked out yet
[9/11/13 11:41:14 AM] Effectuating Affliction: ffs
[9/11/13 11:41:26 AM] Effectuating Affliction: On 12/09/13, at 2:35 AM, Abrie aka hipopapotamus wrote:
> not at all she is a clever lady and might even have a suggestion or two


Also, (finger) bav
[9/11/13 11:41:36 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Don't believe whatever he says about me lol
[9/11/13 11:41:44 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: i lied
[9/11/13 11:41:51 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: she is a stupid lady
[9/11/13 11:41:56 AM] ntoombs19:
[9/11/13 11:41:59 AM] Effectuating Affliction: (rofl)
[9/11/13 11:42:36 AM] ntoombs19: well i proposed the following to resolve this issue:
[9/11/13 11:43:14 AM] ntoombs19: the bav account will assist me in taking two smaller villages
[9/11/13 11:43:18 AM] ntoombs19: one owned by Mela
[9/11/13 11:43:35 AM] ntoombs19: and one owned by crazdre
[9/11/13 11:44:06 AM] ntoombs19: Mela has 2 so to be sure there is no confusion i am talking about his larger village
[9/11/13 11:44:11 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Okay, seems fair to me
[9/11/13 11:44:56 AM] ntoombs19: the way he will assist me is in clearing one village of my choosing despite the losses, and prenobeling both of them
[9/11/13 11:45:18 AM] ntoombs19: I have not scouted either one so i am not baiting you into a deal that I know would screw you over
[9/11/13 11:45:33 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Yep, I get you
[9/11/13 11:45:57 AM] ntoombs19: as for the long term agreement over territory
[9/11/13 11:46:32 AM] ntoombs19: we would adopt bav's earlier proposal for a straight line border along their three village cluster
[9/11/13 11:46:45 AM] ntoombs19: with villages on the border belonging to bav
[9/11/13 11:46:46 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: tbh i like it
[9/11/13 11:46:51 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Me too
[9/11/13 11:46:53 AM] ntoombs19: and villages left of the border belonging to me
[9/11/13 11:46:59 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: both compromise and build a stronger relationship
[9/11/13 11:47:08 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Yep
[9/11/13 11:47:19 AM] ntoombs19: and of course right of the border is bav's
[9/11/13 11:47:40 AM] ntoombs19: the northern and southern tips of the border would need to be moved periodically
[9/11/13 11:48:00 AM] ntoombs19: but that can be decided later
[9/11/13 11:48:06 AM] Effectuating Affliction: (y)
[9/11/13 11:48:52 AM] ntoombs19: I believe I can grow sufficiently with this border so i think bav and I can be great allies
[9/11/13 11:50:42 AM] Effectuating Affliction: That works for me too, as I'd definitely like to avoid a conflict with you guys
[9/11/13 11:51:10 AM] ntoombs19: As would I
[9/11/13 11:51:52 AM] ntoombs19: as a private bit of info, my duke wants me to noble bav
[9/11/13 11:52:10 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: try to noble bav
[9/11/13 11:52:13 AM] Effectuating Affliction:
[9/11/13 11:52:23 AM] ntoombs19: 1 on 1 I could
[9/11/13 11:52:34 AM] Effectuating Affliction: On 12/09/13, at 2:51 AM, ntoombs19 wrote:
> as a private bit of info, my duke wants me to noble bav


I'd want the same if I were your duke as well
[9/11/13 11:52:35 AM] ntoombs19: but I'd rather not incur the wrath of evil
[9/11/13 11:52:37 AM] Effectuating Affliction:
[9/11/13 11:52:42 AM] Effectuating Affliction: We are evil, afterall
[9/11/13 11:52:51 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: pfft the wrath of abrie is evil
[9/11/13 11:52:58 AM] Effectuating Affliction: pleb
[9/11/13 11:53:05 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus:
[9/11/13 11:53:18 AM] ntoombs19: I would like to discuss the very long term now
[9/11/13 11:53:26 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Oh?
[9/11/13 11:53:27 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Go on
[9/11/13 11:53:37 AM] ntoombs19: just so it's not a big question mark on the back of everyones mind as we proceed with our current relationship
[9/11/13 11:53:44 AM] Effectuating Affliction: yeah
[9/11/13 11:54:00 AM] ntoombs19: Should I decide not to join evil
[9/11/13 11:54:16 AM] ntoombs19: and we come to a point where war is on the horizon
[9/11/13 11:54:24 AM] ntoombs19: I do not want it to come as a surprise to either of us
[9/11/13 11:54:29 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: well sooner or later that will happen i guess
[9/11/13 11:54:31 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: so yeah
[9/11/13 11:54:39 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: we need a termination notice or something
[9/11/13 11:54:49 AM] ntoombs19: yes
[9/11/13 11:55:01 AM] ntoombs19: and not a notice where one person gets stacked then breaks ties and starts nobeling
[9/11/13 11:55:15 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: agreed
[9/11/13 11:55:19 AM] ntoombs19: this agreement can only work with trust
[9/11/13 11:55:24 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Yep.
[9/11/13 11:55:35 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: trust is all we have to make this deal work
[9/11/13 11:55:46 AM] ntoombs19: and we can't trust each other if we are worried about the other person turning on us at any moment
[9/11/13 11:56:08 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: ntoombs if i can convince bav to take the deal
[9/11/13 11:56:24 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: i will not backstab you as long as im on the account
[9/11/13 11:56:37 AM] ntoombs19: I will not either
[9/11/13 11:56:39 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: plus ill let you know if i for some reason leave the account
[9/11/13 11:56:51 AM] ntoombs19: that would be helpful
[9/11/13 11:57:19 AM] ntoombs19: now just for some more clarification on what that notice would look like or what would happen leading up to it
[9/11/13 11:57:32 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: when i nobled slem he acted like i was untrustworthy
[9/11/13 11:57:36 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: that is untrue
[9/11/13 11:57:45 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: i always keep my word
[9/11/13 11:57:58 AM] ntoombs19: It should not be motivated by the imminent possibility of war but rather the mutually understood fact that an alliance is no longer beneficial to either of us
[9/11/13 11:58:33 AM] ntoombs19: does that make sense?
[9/11/13 11:58:39 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Yep
[9/11/13 11:58:40 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: i agree
[9/11/13 11:58:51 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: if im not happy or your not happy then we discuss
[9/11/13 11:58:56 AM] Effectuating Affliction: Can't see a reason for one side to keep it if it's no longer benefitting the other party
[9/11/13 11:59:05 AM] ntoombs19: yes
[9/11/13 11:59:09 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: if we cant come to a conclusion the grace peroid sets in
[9/11/13 11:59:20 AM] ntoombs19: (y)
[9/11/13 11:59:26 AM] Effectuating Affliction: How long will the grace period be?
[9/11/13 12:00:13 PM] ntoombs19: a week for now and if that needs to be changed later we can do that
[9/11/13 12:00:46 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: lets make it 72hours to start with
[9/11/13 12:00:52 PM] ntoombs19: ok
[9/11/13 12:01:04 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: with this samll world its more than enough not to benefit either of us
[9/11/13 12:01:28 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: well i guess now ill only need to convince bav
[9/11/13 12:01:33 PM] ntoombs19: and I matt
[9/11/13 12:01:37 PM] Effectuating Affliction:
[9/11/13 12:01:53 PM] Effectuating Affliction: I can help convince bav i guess
[9/11/13 12:02:00 PM] Effectuating Affliction: But I'ma hop off in a sec anyway
[9/11/13 12:02:03 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: On 9/11/13, at 12:01 PM, Effectuating Affliction wrote:
> I can help convince bav i guess
thx babe
[9/11/13 12:02:08 PM] ntoombs19: i have to go now too
[9/11/13 12:02:14 PM] ntoombs19: gotta make a sandwich
[9/11/13 12:02:16 PM] Effectuating Affliction: (finger) Abrie's a woman
[9/11/13 12:02:16 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: (wave)
[9/11/13 12:02:20 PM] Effectuating Affliction: Later nt.
[9/11/13 12:12:04 PM] ntoombs19: i thought abrie was a woman's name
[9/11/13 12:14:15 PM] ntoombs19: how do you guys like my script?
[9/11/13 12:14:23 PM] ntoombs19: kutiya said you all are enjoying it

And this... matt's "disrespectful" comments immediately following this conversation.

[9/11/13 1:47:44 PM] KutiyaKripya: (y)[9/11/13 2:27:11 PM] Matt (Elixir): what
[9/11/13 2:27:15 PM] Matt (Elixir): did you add me to
[9/11/13 2:28:42 PM] KutiyaKripya: elixir coming ointo evil and also about ur and bavarianinman2's conflicts and compensations
[9/11/13 2:28:49 PM] KutiyaKripya: kind of discussion over it
[9/11/13 2:29:01 PM] Matt (Elixir): um
[9/11/13 2:29:05 PM] Matt (Elixir): What?
[9/11/13 2:29:09 PM] KutiyaKripya: lol
[9/11/13 2:29:20 PM] ntoombs19: allow me to explain if i may
[9/11/13 2:29:25 PM] KutiyaKripya: yes
[9/11/13 2:29:25 PM] Matt (Elixir): No
[9/11/13 2:29:31 PM] KutiyaKripya: oh ok
[9/11/13 2:30:28 PM] ntoombs19: kutiya wanted to gauge my interest in joining Evil. I said I was interested but I would not do it because I would be betraying my friends in butter. So In the event that Butter fell apart or I was somehow no longer associated with butter, I would come to Evil first thing to join.
[9/11/13 2:30:46 PM] ntoombs19: In the mean time we are in talks of close diplomatic relationships
[9/11/13 2:31:04 PM] KutiyaKripya: i dont think diplomacy helps us
[9/11/13 2:31:06 PM] KutiyaKripya: with Butter
[9/11/13 2:31:10 PM] KutiyaKripya: look at your spread
[9/11/13 2:31:21 PM] KutiyaKripya: quality is there no doubt
[9/11/13 2:31:43 PM] ntoombs19: personal diplomacy
[9/11/13 2:31:51 PM] KutiyaKripya: oh
[9/11/13 2:32:05 PM] ntoombs19: there is no real way for butter and evil to cooperate except through me
[9/11/13 2:32:28 PM] KutiyaKripya: i agree
[9/11/13 2:32:38 PM] KutiyaKripya: i think you all need to discuss it all again
[9/11/13 2:33:35 PM] ntoombs19: Yea i need to update matt on the situation
[9/11/13 2:34:05 PM] KutiyaKripya: also kenny as well
[9/11/13 2:34:11 PM] KutiyaKripya: looks they both are pissed
[9/11/13 2:35:55 PM] ntoombs19: Matt more than kenny I believe. I think they are not sure on where my loyalties lie
[9/11/13 2:36:10 PM] KutiyaKripya: i see
[9/11/13 2:36:16 PM] KutiyaKripya: your loyalty is with Butter
[9/11/13 2:36:25 PM] ntoombs19: I know that but I'm not sure they know that
[9/11/13 2:36:36 PM] ntoombs19: It shouldn't be a problem once everyone is on the same page
[9/11/13 2:36:47 PM] KutiyaKripya: yes
[9/11/13 3:09:58 PM] Matt (Elixir): On 9/11/13, at 1:44 PM, ntoombs19 wrote:
> [9/11/13 11:52:10 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: try to noble bav
Why is he so cocky? We are twice his size
[9/11/13 3:10:28 PM] KutiyaKripya: does size matter ?
[9/11/13 3:10:32 PM] KutiyaKripya: you think ?
[9/11/13 3:11:17 PM] Matt (Elixir): The implication being we are too nooby to handle beating an account with only a few 4-5k villages?
[9/11/13 3:11:41 PM] Matt (Elixir): I just dont think he should be so confident if he is clearly not in the best situation
[9/11/13 3:11:44 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: On 9/11/13, at 3:09 PM, Matt wrote:
> [08:44 PM] ntoombs19:


<<< [9/11/13 11:52:10 AM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: try to noble bav — ntoombs19, Today 08:44 PMWhy is he so cocky? We are twice his size
firstly: that wasnt being cocky but a joke between friends
[9/11/13 3:11:57 PM] KutiyaKripya: Or maybe the account holders have enough skills to combat it
[9/11/13 3:12:05 PM] KutiyaKripya: t is your way of looking at it
[9/11/13 3:12:24 PM] KutiyaKripya: And you have nobled those villages recently
[9/11/13 3:12:28 PM] KutiyaKripya: most of them
[9/11/13 3:12:45 PM] KutiyaKripya: so maybe you should re assess who is not in the best situation
[9/11/13 3:13:15 PM] KutiyaKripya: this can escalate very quickly to another level
[9/11/13 3:13:23 PM] KutiyaKripya: th way you are talking about normal stuff
[9/11/13 3:14:54 PM] KutiyaKripya: I am friends with ntoombs,hence want peaceful resolution
[9/11/13 3:15:02 PM] KutiyaKripya: also i think you need to read betwen lines
[9/11/13 3:15:09 PM] KutiyaKripya: and not take everything literally
[9/11/13 3:16:50 PM] Abrie aka hipopapotamus: kuty let him talk to ntoombs and they can decide. i still have to talk to bav anyway and im not getting into an argument on skype with him
[9/11/13 3:17:07 PM] KutiyaKripya: okk

There is more at play here than even these skype chat's cover. For example, in a cross nobeling with bav, I had allowed them to take a village with minimal losses with the promise that they would allow us to recap it.

bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 05:53
So it seems we have a problem


Any suggestions on how to sort it out as i dont want any tempers escalating because of a simple crossnoble incident.


Abrie


Elixir Sep 10,2013 07:36
only acc sit here, will have to solve it when they return


/kenny


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 07:39
No worries, just dont want to lose troops unnecessarily and have this escalating.


Abrie


Elixir Sep 10,2013 07:40
will try to contact nt or matt wont do anything in that time


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 07:42
I appreciate your help.


Elixir Sep 10,2013 07:42
np
i suppose it is a train coming right?


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 07:47
Yes it is.


Elixir Sep 10,2013 07:49
ok just wanted to be 100% sure


Elixir Sep 10,2013 09:19
ntoombs19 here. What do you want to do. Obviously I would like to keep the village.


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 09:20
Thats just fair. I just dont want to lose troops on a crossnoble. You can take the villa right back.


Abrie


Elixir Sep 10,2013 09:37
Ok sounds good to me. I'll send a small nuke with a noble to the village as soon as I can.


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 09:39
Ty i will withdraw everything. i give you my word.


Abrie


Elixir Sep 10,2013 09:55
Your first noble will probably not take the village but the rest of them will. If you managed to snipe the second noble and all of them after, You would save me a noble and save 3 of your nobles.


Elixir Sep 10,2013 10:20
If you do snipe it, I won't have to send a noble so let me know if you manage it.


Elixir Sep 10,2013 10:21
Oh nvm I guess I will see it, you won't have to let me know.


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 10:22
I will try to snipe but ill be from my phone so my chances of succeeding are slim xD


bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 15:00
it is empty. I will keep my word buddy.

Then two and a half hours later to the duke of cam

bavarianinnman2 Sep 10,2013 17:24
elixir is try to cap a village i just took, im dodgeing it and letting him take it.


if he recap fails id like to stack and try to have minimal losses of defense troops.


so was hopen you guys would help, ill pay back your losses, and of course you guys have been helpful ill leave your tribe alone.

 

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So after all that there was still no PA or NAP in place just a border agreement that Bav was yet to agree to. Looks like Bav didnt want to agree to it and it wasnt finalized. So abrie was right nothing was put in stone and the talks broke down just like abrie explained. Ok lets move on and continue the war talk. This is after all....

Butter, Decept, (soon to be CM too yes I know you have been in talks with them to join so dont deny it!) VS Campin