[12-Feb-17 3:35:37 AM] Philip Del Zotto: Hello everyone
[12-Feb-17 3:35:38 AM] *** Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW added Makis Sotiriou ***
[12-Feb-17 3:35:53 AM] *** Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW added Chris Carpenter / fatbstrd ***
[12-Feb-17 3:35:56 AM] PCboymc (Whinny the Pooh): Hey bro
[12-Feb-17 3:35:59 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: hello
[12-Feb-17 3:36:02 AM] Tobias Biermeier | BierTier: hi
[12-Feb-17 3:36:03 AM] Seth | d3ffy: hello
[12-Feb-17 3:36:25 AM] Jeff Huff: Hi guys!
[12-Feb-17 3:36:35 AM] Philip Del Zotto: I will step aside for the time being and let you guys talk because I am driving
[12-Feb-17 3:37:12 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: no problem
[12-Feb-17 3:37:16 AM] *** Group call ***
[12-Feb-17 3:37:18 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: thank you for hearing us out
[12-Feb-17 3:37:18 AM] *** Missed group call. ***
[12-Feb-17 3:38:58 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: as tensions between our 2(4) tribes are getting to a breaking point, I wanted to make a last attempt to reunite us together
[12-Feb-17 3:39:58 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: is this something we are all agreed upon?
[12-Feb-17 3:40:07 AM] Tobias Biermeier | BierTier: yeah
[12-Feb-17 3:40:55 AM] PCboymc (Whinny the Pooh): If you guys have anything in mind, lets bring them all out here. So that we can all discuss
[12-Feb-17 3:41:49 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: the main problem is we have way to many members which gives us mixed agendas and attempting to split a map when we are so mixed together is a impossible task
[12-Feb-17 3:43:25 AM] Jeff Huff: An overall goal for the two tribes with a plan at end game is what we need
[12-Feb-17 3:45:44 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: right
[12-Feb-17 3:46:29 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: so my offer is we end the alliance and become a family.
[12-Feb-17 3:47:33 AM] Jeff Huff: What would you suggest ?
[12-Feb-17 3:48:00 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: if we can consolidate our tribes into 3, and then secure the south map
[12-Feb-17 3:50:09 AM] Jeff Huff: You would want to consolidate the two academy tribes into 1?
[12-Feb-17 3:51:05 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: basically yes.
[12-Feb-17 3:51:25 AM] Seth | d3ffy: Would the 16 players needed to be dropped be split evenly between the two families?
[12-Feb-17 3:52:21 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: if we do agree we will need to thoroughly select who we want based on skill activity and position
[12-Feb-17 3:52:47 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: I'm sure there will be complaints but this is what is needed regardless since only 1 tribe can win....
[12-Feb-17 3:55:12 AM] Tobias Biermeier | BierTier: Sounds reasonable. Did you think any more in detail who should go where and how and so on?
[12-Feb-17 3:58:07 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: ha no I don't think that should be left up to me
[12-Feb-17 3:58:23 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: or we will be under 30 members (cwl)
[12-Feb-17 3:58:39 AM] Seth | d3ffy: lol
[12-Feb-17 3:58:49 AM] Jeff Huff: It makes sense to have a set endgame, if not there will be tiffs the whole way
[12-Feb-17 4:05:34 AM] Philip Del Zotto: Our 2 academy's merging is a possibility we can entertain. Problem is this potential rift between our tribes in the making. All these plots to overthrow Vendetta has caused reason to call into question our honesty to each other.
[12-Feb-17 4:08:04 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: I think though if we join together and start fresh as a family things will be much different
[12-Feb-17 4:08:48 AM] Philip Del Zotto: I've been straight up with everyone from day one. If we are to come to an agreement what will diplomacy be with other tribes?
[12-Feb-17 4:11:51 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: well I appreciate you being straight up but I like to keep some cards hidden
[12-Feb-17 4:12:36 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: relation is good with other tribes and if we merge our focus will be to secure south zones
[12-Feb-17 4:12:54 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: this will be with tribes not in top anyways so there relation is not much important
[12-Feb-17 4:19:09 AM] Philip Del Zotto: Ok cards
hidden is a given lol I just like to keep my intentions clear
[12-Feb-17 6:20:10 AM] Seth | d3ffy: I think everyone is open to this discussion. The details would need to be drawn up before either side agreed of course
[12-Feb-17 4:45:38 PM] *** Philip Del Zotto has made the chat history visible to everyone. ***
[12-Feb-17 8:00:27 PM] Jeff Huff: I'm trying to get in touch with ektoras, I think I have a great way for this to all happen and keep everyone happy long term
[12-Feb-17 8:16:18 PM] Chris Carpenter / fatbstrd: He will be away for a bit. What's up?
[12-Feb-17 8:20:40 PM] Jeff Huff: I had a suggestion on how to work a long term alliance with a reasonable outcome for the endgame
[12-Feb-17 8:25:00 PM] Jeff Huff: I do find it easier to talk to one person becuase it's easier to hash things out quickly between two people. I have the rest of our council behind me
[12-Feb-17 8:27:05 PM] Chris Carpenter / fatbstrd: Sounds fair.
[12-Feb-17 8:30:21 PM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: im on
[12-Feb-17 8:35:32 PM] Jeff Huff: So I guess the merger of the academy tribes would work fine. But I think we need an outcome for the endgame for us to both have a comfort level going forward. It seems like everyone is too worried about one sided deals on both sides
[12-Feb-17 8:36:05 PM] Jeff Huff: So i will paste what I proposed to our guys
[12-Feb-17 10:35:25 PM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: have you all discussed the proposal?
[12-Feb-17 11:49:48 PM] Makis Sotiriou: ok so.. hello from me! I'm sorry for the last couple days I was really busy.
[13-Feb-17 12:56:09 AM] Jeff Huff: I just got done with my mountain bike ride and we all are discussing
[13-Feb-17 1:34:05 AM] Philip Del Zotto: Are we still sharing a noble planner?
[13-Feb-17 1:34:11 AM] Philip Del Zotto: With TMBD
[13-Feb-17 4:17:10 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: (waiting) I'm not waiting forever
[13-Feb-17 4:29:27 AM] Seth | d3ffy: There are incomings to SoI
[13-Feb-17 4:29:32 AM] Seth | d3ffy: from your people
[13-Feb-17 4:30:20 AM] Jeff Huff: You dropped us from the noble planner
[13-Feb-17 4:31:45 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: yes my tribe was impatient, but I have made sure nobody attacks V unless provoked
[13-Feb-17 4:32:13 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: we will have to change the proposal slightly now
[13-Feb-17 4:35:15 AM] Jeff Huff: What have we won bob?
[13-Feb-17 4:47:21 AM] Jeff Huff: ? We are getting impatient as well
[13-Feb-17 4:49:17 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: [Monday, 13 February, 2017 4:35 AM] Jeff Huff:
<<< What have we won bob?:^)
[13-Feb-17 4:49:48 AM] Makis Sotiriou: kinder egg
[13-Feb-17 4:49:51 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: yes well Its not like you were not preparing something yourself.
[13-Feb-17 4:50:03 AM] Makis Sotiriou: I'm off to bed guys
[13-Feb-17 4:50:15 AM] Jeff Huff: I love kinder eggs
[13-Feb-17 4:50:18 AM] Makis Sotiriou: ! ;d
[13-Feb-17 4:54:36 AM] Jeff Huff: We have known for a while what your intentions are. It's honestly not a big deal
[13-Feb-17 4:54:42 AM | Edited 5:04:47 AM] Makis Sotiriou: ok lets get serious. you was trying to backstab us, we do have the conversation between silver and dragon. now, I've been busy last 2 days don't know what you agreed with the rest of my council and to be honest, I don't like it. reason of this all is because you tried to backstab us in the first place. and I can send all the conversations you had. loovee left because of this, not sure if he knew or not, but he left. he came to us with just saying "I'm backstabbed by my own tribe". so yes, you won. said what I had to say, I don't know the opinion of the rest of my council they can make a deal with you or whatever they want. BUT, to be honest, until proven that you had no idea of this, I don't trust you.
[13-Feb-17 4:55:12 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: [Monday, 13 February, 2017 4:54 AM] Jeff Huff:
<<< We have known for a while what your intentions are. It's honestly not a big dealindeed and we prepared also and my talk to you was a back up plan
[13-Feb-17 4:55:44 AM] Makis Sotiriou: and we have never, NEVER, talked to anyone about backstabbing you, we made the mistake to trust you. yes, our members didn't like our alliance, but we invested on it.
[13-Feb-17 4:55:53 AM] Makis Sotiriou: now my co is taking over, have a good night.
[13-Feb-17 4:55:56 AM] Seth | d3ffy: You talk about dragonking who isn’t welcome in our tribe anymore
[13-Feb-17 4:56:29 AM] Jeff Huff: Lmao the guys who plotted against were love and dragonlord. I never cared. I still don't.
[13-Feb-17 4:56:32 AM] Seth | d3ffy: and love who is with you lmao
[13-Feb-17 4:57:11 AM] Jeff Huff: You gullible shits (holidayspirit)
[13-Feb-17 4:57:14 AM] Seth | d3ffy: The council now is the best thing that could’ve happened for this tribe and for this alliance and you guys blew it
[13-Feb-17 4:57:20 AM] Makis Sotiriou: then prove to me he was plotting against our alliance and he is out the second you do
[13-Feb-17 4:57:34 AM] Seth | d3ffy: Silver is the one who told you this
[13-Feb-17 4:57:40 AM] Seth | d3ffy: have him prove it
[13-Feb-17 4:57:55 AM] Makis Sotiriou: silver sent me the message with dragon. nothing with love
[13-Feb-17 4:58:01 AM] Jeff Huff: I'll send screen shots of our forum
[13-Feb-17 4:58:09 AM] Seth | d3ffy: oh sorry I thought you were talking ddragonking
[13-Feb-17 4:58:33 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: I saw the posts from him.
[13-Feb-17 4:58:49 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: I told you all 2 days ago I was willing to put this in the past
[13-Feb-17 4:58:55 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: i have forgiven love already
[13-Feb-17 4:59:13 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: he is sworn loyalty to me
[13-Feb-17 4:59:22 AM] Seth | d3ffy: as he did us
[13-Feb-17 4:59:41 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: i asked him to contact you all today as well
[13-Feb-17 4:59:49 AM] Jeff Huff: He didn't
[13-Feb-17 5:00:04 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: nothing?
[13-Feb-17 5:00:06 AM] Seth | d3ffy: and try to join TMBD3?
[13-Feb-17 5:00:08 AM] Jeff Huff: He tried to recruit our members
[13-Feb-17 5:00:08 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: he said he talked to everyone
[13-Feb-17 5:00:12 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: to join tmbd3
[13-Feb-17 5:00:20 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: under my order
[13-Feb-17 5:00:33 AM] Seth | d3ffy: Before we’ve even made an agreement
[13-Feb-17 5:00:34 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: but received silence
[13-Feb-17 5:00:44 AM] Jeff Huff: Lmao give us a break. Let's just get this war on at this point
[13-Feb-17 5:00:51 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: yes indeed
[13-Feb-17 5:19:46 AM] *** Group call ***
[13-Feb-17 5:19:54 AM] *** Missed group call. ***
[13-Feb-17 6:48:36 AM] Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW: smooth
[13-Feb-17 6:48:44 AM] *** Henry ektoras & 2pro4U TW has left ***
[13-Feb-17 6:50:47 AM] Philip Del Zotto: Cards buddy.
[13-Feb-17 6:51:24 AM] *** Jeff Huff has left ***
[13-Feb-17 6:51:33 AM] *** Seth | d3ffy has left ***
[13-Feb-17 6:52:02 AM] *** PCboymc (Whinny the Pooh) has left ***
[13-Feb-17 1:38:48 PM] *** Chris Carpenter / fatbstrd has left ***